manchin has never negotiated in good faith, he is, you know, changing his mind, we shouldn t trust him, you heard from a couple of progressives also saying that they should have kept these two bills together from the start. and now we know why. and it is because senator joe manchin put a no on this today, he s not going to vote for it, it is hard to imagine how they can resurrect it. julie tsirkin, stay with us. i want to rerack this conversation. and show people once again what senator joe manchin said on fox news this morning that put pretty much a nail in the coffin of the president s agenda on build back better. let s have a watch. you have the debt that we re carrying at $29 trillion. you have also the geopolitical unrest that we have. you have the covid variant. and that is wreaking havoc again. people are concerned. i ve been with my family. i know everyone is concerned. so when you have these things coming at you the way they are right now, i ve always said
why should one man in the u.s. senate have this kind of power to break the backs of families. i have an assistant with four children, someone who does work for me. she relies on that tax credit. her family uses that tax credit for children, four of them, and to say this isn t impacting real people s lives is ridiculous because of course it is. and joe manchin has too much power. we need filibuster reform or we need to deal with that issue because if this is what s happening on build back better, jonathan, i can guarantee you he s going to do the same thing on voting rights which means the two big hallmark items are going down the drain because one man from west virginia, a poor state that would be very positively impacted by build back better, is going to stop this from happening. it s a shame and it s not how democracy works and that s why i m shaking my head. eric, your thoughts. joe manchin got 250,000
that is really wreaking havoc again. people have been concerned. i ve been with my family. i know everyone is concerned. so when you have these things coming at you the way they are now, i ve always said this, brett, if i can t go home and explain it to the people of west virginia, i can t vote for it and i cannot vote to continue with this piece of legislation, i just can t. welcome back to the sunday show. i m jonathan cape heart. we continue to follow the news that senator manchin has killed president biden s signature legislation by announcing he won t vote for build back better. he told them about his decision this morning. perhaps reading the tea leaves democrats have switched their focus to voting rights but manchin is an obstacle there too. he and fellow senator kyrsten sinema are refusing to change the filibuster which is necessary if democrats have any
this, brett, if i can t go home and explain it to the people of west virginia, i can t vote for it. and i cannot vote to continue with this piece of legislation. i just can t. and once again, that was senator joe manchin of west virginia. democrat of west virginia, saying he is a no on build back better. the reaction from his democratic colleagues has been swift and strong. have a listen to senator bernie sanders, what he had to say in reaction. i hope that we will bring a strong bill to the floor of the senate, as soon as we can. and let mr. manchin explain to the people of west virginia why he doesn t have the guts to stand up to powerful special interests. you want a vote on it no matter what, even if absolutely. absolutely. the american people have got to understand what is at stake. we have been dealing with mr. manchin for month after month after month. but if he doesn t have the courage to do the right thing for the working families of west
virginia and america, let him vote no in front of the whole world. and so let me bring back into the conversation nbc s julie tsirkin. you were mentioning senator sanders there before we played all of that sound from senator manchin and senator sanders and there you have senator sanders saying, you know what, senator manchin should have to vote on these on build back better, go on the record with the american people, but the people of west virginia on his opposition. how likely is that to happen? well, look, senator manchin has been calling for a vote for the last month at least. he said, i don t set the floor schedule, i don t determine the votes, but if they want to have a vote, let s vote for this bill. he will vote no as he indicated today. you heard from senator bernie sanders, he wants a vote on this. dick durbin has been saying let s put this on the floor. the only person who hasn t been