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there. they re moving though, stephanie. manchin has offered a $1.5 trillion price tag. he has refused to say that is his upper limit. progressives still say we want 3.5 trillion, but they re talking about numbers like 3 trillion. one of them floated on a call with president biden a floor of 2.5 trillion. there s slow movement. you re right they re not there. this is the beginning of a long and difficult negotiation. on the policy front there s one difficult decision that democrats have to make. they re kind of caught in this conundrum, as the price tag falls, do they do fewer social programs at a longer time frame, hope that they last, try to do them well, or do they stand up a lot of programs over a shorter period of time because they ll have to expire in order to meet the price tag over a few years. they re not there yet, but i do see movement. monica, let s talk about the president, in michigan yesterday, a trump heavy state

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