there. >> they're moving though, stephanie. manchin has offered a $1.5 trillion price tag. he has refused to say that is his upper limit. progressives still say we want 3.5 trillion, but they're talking about numbers like 3 trillion. one of them floated on a call with president biden a floor of 2.5 trillion. there's slow movement. you're right they're not there. this is the beginning of a long and difficult negotiation. on the policy front there's one difficult decision that democrats have to make. they're kind of caught in this conundrum, as the price tag falls, do they do fewer social programs at a longer time frame, hope that they last, try to do them well, or do they stand up a lot of programs over a shorter period of time because they'll have to expire in order to meet the price tag over a few years. they're not there yet, but i do see movement. >> monica, let's talk about the president, in michigan yesterday, a trump heavy state