lundgren is able to control all of his followers. he dictates their every move. for some, even their thoughts. no one around you ever had secret discussions? no, in fact, that kind of communication control is a huge part of the setting. without the setting, you don t have the effects that this kind of thing can bring about. how was that imposed? how did he impose the control over 20 people? well, there s the subtleness of eventually keeping certain conversations restricted. in other words, there are certain things you don t need to talk about and there are certain things you shouldn t talk about. and there s a lot of reprisals for any time someone would do something. a form of nonphysical punishment. lundgren convinces luff and the other followers that their sins will delay the second
upon the one that s in charge, the prophet. and you have no ability, no capability of your own. so you completely relying on him and it s dreadful because there s nothing you can do about it. and so you re desperate. and it s desperate as somebody that s floundering around in the water looking for a breath of air. as lundgren s control continues to take a dark turn, some group members fear what is to come. one man flees the group and warns authorities that this cult is on a path toward carnage. curry, who left the group and finally called the fbi, said they were afraid to leave. he was afraid to leave. he was afraid that jeff had enough information, was powerful enough he would track him down and kill him for sure. as the fbi begins to monitor the group, lundgren devises his next test for his followers. he tells them that the second coming of christ will only occur once the group is free of sin
team never imagined we d key encounter another inmate at wabash with a similar story. then, we were introduced to 47-year-old joseph garner. i ve been down 9 1/2 years, got 22 1/2 more to go. i ve been my crime is murder. and i cannibalized during the process. garner killed his father on christmas eve, 1995. at the time, he believed his dad was preventing the second coming of christ. again, we ll warn you, his account of the murder is extremely graphic. i eventually told him to sit in the chair and not to move and i started singing the battle hymn of the republic, glory, glory hallelujah. and he i told him, they re coming. you hear them? i was wigged out completely at that time. and he must have got scared and he jumped up and he tried to push me aside and i thought he was attacking me so i stabbed
you become completely dependent on the one in charge. you have no ability, no capability. so you re completely relying on him and it s dreadful because there s nothing that you can do about it. and so you re desperate. and it s as desperate sass somebody that is floundering around in the water looking for a breath of air. as lundgren s control begins to take a dark turn, some group members fear what is to come. one man flees the group and warns authorities that this group is on a path towards carnage. courage left the group and finally called the fbi and said he was afraid to leave. he was afraid that jeff had enough information, was powerful enough that he would track him down and kill him for sure. as the fbi begins to monitor the group, lundgren devices his next test for his followers. he tells them that the second
room for cloistering. isolated on a remote farm, lundgren is able to control all of his followers. he dictates their every move. and for some, even their thoughts. did you have secret discussions? no, in fact, that kind of communication control say huge part of the setting. without the setting, you don t have the effects that this kind of thing can bring about. how is that important? how do you impose the control? well, there s the subtleness of eventually keeping certain conversations restricted. in other words, there s certain things that you don t need to talk about. and there s certain things that you shouldn t talk about. and there s a lot of reprisal for anytime someone would do something. a form of nonphysical punishment. lundgren convinces luff and the other followers that their sins will delay the second