the boy scouts of america is expected to end its ban on gay adult scout leaders today. it s a policy that has divided the 105-year-old organization. the scouts executive committee approved ending the ban earlier this month. the entire board votes today. the boy scouts did lift its ban on gay youth two years ago but not on scout leaders. john langburt joins us from dallas a former scout leader who is gay. welcome, john and good morning. thanks, carol. this is not entirely good news in your mind. why? well i think they ve kind of not really thought this through. they re going to allow troops now to decide whether or not to allow gay leaders, so what does that do to folks like me if i want to participate with my son, do i now have to start ringing up on the phone and calling around to different troops and
it is like walking into a trip wire. scott walker strongly criticized the supreme court in this country, and he supports a ban of openly gay scout leaders. he refused to answer whether he thinks homosexuality is a choice. do you think that being gay is a choice? oh, i mean, i think that s not even an issue for me to be involved in. the bottom line is i m going to stand up and work hard for every american regardless of who they are, no matter where they come from, what their background. to do that properly, you have to have an opinion on who they are and where they re coming from? no, i don t have an opinion on every single issue out there. to me, that s i don t know the answer to that question. why is that the default position on so many issues, climb change, all kinds of things now, candidates now say i don t know, as if that absolves them.
and both these guys say the son of jewish immigrants a nazi but. i know it s politically incorrect but. it is like walking into a trip wire. scott walker strongly criticized the supreme court in this country, and he supports a ban of openly gay scout leaders. he refused to answer whether he thinks homosexuality is a choice. do you think that being gay is a choice? oh i mean i think that s not even an issue for me to be involved in. the bottom line is i m going to stand up and work hard for every american regardless of who they are, no matter where they come from, what their background. to do that properly, you have to have an opinion on who they are and where they re coming from? no i don t have an opinion on every single issue out there. to me that s i don t know the answer to that question. why is that the default position on so many issues
so but should there be a ban on allowing gay men to be scout leaders? that s up to the people who run the boy scouts. one thing that is unique people ask me a question i ll answer a question. but you re not answering this. sure. in this case i thought the policy was just fine. when i was in scouts it was fine. you re asking what should the policy be going forward and it should be left up to the leaders and the scouts. do you think being gay is a choice? that s not even an issue for me to be involved in. the bottom line is, i m going to stand up for every american, regardless of who they are and no matter their background. i m going to fight for people and whether they go from here. to act on behalf of people to do that properly you have to understand or at least have an opinion on who they are and where they are coming from. again, i don t have an opinion on every single issue out there. to me that s i don t know. i don t know the answer to that
is it pulls scouting into a larger debate as opposed to say scouting is about camping and citizenship and service award instead of pulling the other issues out there. i hope that they can stay focused. that s all. should there be a ban on allowing gay men to be scout leaders? that s up to the people who run the boy scouts. thing i find unique is people ask me a question, i will answer a question. you are not really answering this question. in this case i thought the policy was fine. when i was in scouts it was fine. you are asking what it is going forward. i think it should be up to the scouts. do you think being gay is a choice? that s not an issue to be involved in. i will stand up and work hard for every american regardless of who they are and no matter what their background is. i will fit for people no matter weather they vote for people.