scientologists. will they shut down for the open forum of elrond connect l. ron hubbard? tucker: i agree with your point strongly that people ought to be allowed to express their views in public. i don t want to be sucked into the trap of having to take seriously what is clearly not a serious thing. do you know what i mean? if we were being serious if you learn anything about the satanic temple, you can see that we must be serious. we have chapters internationally, quickly growing. tucker: what does that even mean? i don t believe the numbers of any group that comes on my show. i always just divide by ten. before we go so what if there were two?
the protesters from the catholic organization were out-of-state. we get this stuff about a small town their regionalli boundaries.ou tucker: try it in downtown birmingham, alabama, or chicago or something. but here s the point i m making. there is no comparison between satanism, a silly made up religion which has no god and is nontheistic, which you conceded, and christianity, judaism, or islam. agree or disagree, they are millennia old. they run hospitals, churches, schools. they form the basis of our civil society.hu they don t really compare to what you are doing. do they? well, we are getting there.e. we are a growing population and we should defend pluralism and free speech. we can t allow america to divide itself into regional theocracy.o a place like clearwater, florida. almost entirely colonized by scientologists. will they shut down for the open forum of l. ron hubbard?
guess would be maybe don t criticize them ultimately if you re interested and bringing them to your side. mark: they went into it with muslims. meghan: they would into it with scientologists, let s keep it real here. we were talking that cnn and a week has said it s bizarre to have someone pray for a president and couldn t reckon isa asterisk bannerman is being played on national television. i just say, may be spend a little time outside of new york and d.c., and might help you understand that people like their bible and their guns and it s part of the reason why president trump won. harris: wears the criticism coming from that he didn t deserve it based on his presbyterian belief? that sounds made up and crazy. meghan: i hate people who faith shame. i m a person of faith as well and it comes in different packages and the idea that maybe you re not displaying it as overtly as some people, i don t like dictating who is a good
scientology meant knowing how to know. but if they realize that there is so much in scientology which is true and strong and frees people and frees souls, then i think people will follow and the independent field will grow and can become a great, great movement. together with other great movements. the more time i spend with these independent scientologists, these free zoners, the more i realize that we are witnessing a scientology reformation. a religion can only expand and grow if individuals feel free to make it their own. that s what s happening here. these independent scientologists believe they are the true believers, that the church has veered off course. that they are the ones remaining true to the original foundations built by l. ron hubbard.
how does that make you feel? i was actually working undercover for the intelligence arm of the church. you were a church spy? i was. infiltrate a meeting of independent scientologists. i was sent to take names. for 30 years one of the top auditors as in the l.a. area. i later reported back to my handler and i said do you know that tray lots is with these guys and they said oh, yeah, he s a suppressive person. he s been declared. well, this is what started waking me up. i better check this out because it doesn t make sense.