scientologists. will they shut down for the open forum of elrond connect l. ron hubbard? >> tucker: i agree with your point strongly that people ought to be allowed to express their views in public. i don't want to be sucked into the trap of having to take seriously what is clearly not a serious thing. do you know what i mean? >> if we were being serious -- if you learn anything about the satanic temple, you can see that we must be serious. we have chapters internationally, quickly growing. >> tucker: what does that even mean? i don't believe the numbers of any group that comes on my show. i always just -- divide by ten. before we go -- >> so what if there were two?