President itself wants to do the interview and its only his lawyers holding him back. So what is really going on here . Does the president want to talk or not . Politico suggests the answer is yes. Despite the risks. Thats because of, quote, trumps belief in his selfcreated myth, that he can convince anyone of anything if hes simply given the opportunity to get them in a room alone. Apparently that includes Special Counsel bob mueller himself. I want to bring in nbcs Peter Alexander whos live in berkeley heights, new jersey. Peter, if the president really wants to do it, he could just say yes. I mean, his legal take is working for him. So whats going on here . Yes, chris, you make a very good point. There would be one easy way for Rudy Giuliani and, frankly, President Trump, to wrap this thing up sooner. Giuliani saying he wants it to end within the next three weeks, by september 1st. He doesnt want it to interfere with the november elections. They would sit down with robert
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party will say we can t do this. he is giving people a license to hate, to provide a source of anger to go after each other and he does it on his twitter account. cnn politics reporter and editor at large is with me now. it s very hard to get anthony car scarmucci to go in the spot light and talk. it is, very difficult. but that aside, it is somewhat meaningful, is it not, to hear someone who is the white house communications director compare the president to a meltdown of cher noble? people will say he was only communications director for eleven days. that s less important actually than the fact that he is a trump business associate and long-time friend long before donald trump got into politics. this is someone who knows him. you can t dispute that no matter how much time he spent on the official staff. .2, in listen to the scarmucci interview on new day, poppy, this is donald trump, the idea
only bad for him but bad for the country, they rarely say it publicly. he is. and he is putting his relationship with him with the president on the line. i mean, it s over, at least for now. so that is why it s significant. why we have to take it at its face is because scarmucci doesn t have doesn t represent constituents, he s not an elected official who has to answer to people who really like donald trump who are living in their districts or their states, which is what you see with so many members of congress who are quiet about the president, and in some cases very supportive of the president in public and in private saying, i don t know, i don t understand this guy. that is the major difference. he is somebody who has a career right now and it s probably not the worst thing in the world for him, scarmucci, to be calling out what he considers racism. not a bad thing no matter what
leaders who like the policies of the president like this bull run we ve had, but hate the rhetoric, that they may elevate their voice? i think that the thing with trump s presidency, it s well, everything about him i don t like, but as it relates to the business world. and the but is, well, the economy is doing well. businesses like the corporate tax cuts, et cetera, et cetera. so it s one of those things that it keeps i think a lot of them in the fold because they re seeing profits. there s sort of an economic optimism. i don t know at this point, poppy, if it changes anyone s mind. if it goes south, sure, maybe a few more of them speak out. but i will stel you the idea that scarmucci proposed that the party needs to think seriously about replacing donald trump, that will never happen. the people who would do that are the same people who tried to keep donald trump from the nomination in 2016 and you know how that one turned out.
that donald trump goes on twitter and does things that aren t presidential and he bullies people and he provides cover for hate mongers? he s been doing this. this is the two-year anniversary of the charlottesville white nationalist protest of violence that donald trump came out and said was due to bad actors essentially on both sides. so we can go two years before that. this is who the man is. that s the only reason i would say as it relates to scarmucci, if he just had this revelation, he s not been spending enough time on planet earth because which is who donald trump has been virtually his whole life. he said something that struck me in the interview. it was about the economy. he talked about the fed and why would the fed have to cut rates if the economy were so strong. and the economy has been propping up this president a lot. and i guess i just wonder if you think if the economy does turn south, his voice could be echoed in more and more business