investigators because donald trump instructed him to do that. and we ll hear more about that on wednesday when is he testifies. what do you think the big headline is going to be? any guess? i had i we all know that donald trump is shady, but we just don t know the levels and the layers of the types of interworkings of this organization and donald trump is very concerned about what michael cohen will share with us on wednesday. i know we ll all be glued to the television to see. 10-4 on that one. i want to ask you about andrew mccabe and the 25th amendment. let s first listen to what he said this past wednesday about it. sure. rod brought up the 25th amendment mentioned it in the course of a wide ranging and frenetic conversation. it is not something that i m aware of he took any action to pursue. i don t know about any other meet that included discussions of it. i want to remind both you and viewers the last time you and i spoke something picked up a lot of traction online.
2015 and 2016. that as reported originally that they stopped talking about the trump deal before the campaign. that s just not true. so some of the things that we are concerned about that hopefully, michael cohen will shed some light about will show you how this president has truly broken laws and possibly broken ethics rules and continues to benefit from his office, which is totally illegal. how credible of a witness those do you think michael cohen will be? known as the former fixer and all the things that he admits to having done in a very fraudulent way, will he be creditable? we do have to acknowledge the fact that michael cohen at the direction of the president misled congress as well as the mueller investigation. and even the southern district of new york acknowledged that they believe that michael cohen paid the two women at the direction of individual 1, which was donald trump. so yes, did he mislead the
if they find evidence that the crimes were committed there could be charges. one area under scrutiny is whether other people have lied to congress. michael cohen admitted to lying about trump tower moscow and forced to plead guilty to that offense even though it brought no additional prison time and there were redactions from his sentencing memo where around the topic that talked about providing valuable information in the form of substantial assistance about circulating his testimony regarding that matter with others. so i would think that if others lied about that matter, other matters, we might see charges against them. that would include donald trump jr. and jared kushner. jerome corsi is someone also who thought he was going to be charged. we might see charges against him unless he s cooperating and only if there s evidence to support that. so i think there are a few loose ends that remain for robert mueller. so i don t know that the report
he s not going to thank laurlt because he s probably not happy about what they did. i m going to ask there of all three of you. rick, is that too far? is there reason to believe this president was not happy that law enforcement averted this attack? i take michael s point. michael an african-american. he has a different, may have a different perspective. it feels too far to me but i respect his point of view. marjorie, your thoughts on it? i again have a lot of respect for michael steele. so do i. i dote pretend to understand what s going on in donald trump s head. so i m not even going to go there. okay, so finally then to you, zerlina, is there reason to believe the president was not happy that law enforcement thwarted this attack? i don t know that we can know what he was think. but i can look at his behavior. in previous examples of terrorist attacks or attempted attacks when the person was not a right wing extremist and either a liberal or a muslim,
the president said something about it. we can only look at the fact he did not say something about this specific threat and i think come to a conclusion. do i agree with michael steele that he may have been happy that law enforcement didn t capture this person? we won t ever know that. but what i do know is i can look at his reaction to charlottesville and i understand that he thinks there are very fine people that are standing among nazis and that tells you a lot about this president regardless of whether or not we can look into his mind and read his thoughts. zerlina and marjorie and rick, always good to talk with you. thank you so much. omarosa talks about the big testimony next week on capitol hill from michael cohen. her expectations coming up. rom . her expectations coming up