what let s say michael cohen has done that in the past. and rudy giuliani is doing it now. or he was doing it earlier. and let s consider the possibility that michael cohen decides not to continue lying, if that is what he has done in the past. so, what are you taking away from that, the tenor of this relationship between these two, mostly trump and cohen? well, it s estranged, right? they re completely split apart. and michael cohen has decided to come clean. i think it was on your program that i once posited what would come into play would be the cohen index which is how many years would michael cohen be facing before he decided to come and tell the truth. i believe did you say that. i have the number at somewhere between 10 and 15. my guess is splomehow interacti with the u.s. attorney s office that he s come front and center and face-to-face with the fact that s what he has to endure and as a consequence, he s coming
outspoken in his support for cannabis and addressed their conventions. someone else comes to mind as well for me, but go ahead. the fact of the matter is this, donald trump is not loyal to anyone. you think about michael cohen, think about other individuals that have been in the white house that since left. he lacks loyalty. what happens when you lack loyalty alex when your in a tight spot when your back is against the wall you can t expect those individuals to come to our defense or come to your aid. donald trump is his own worst enme, every time he turns on people who are so loyal to him through thick and thin he only hurts himself and he is going to find himself in a corner by himself and those individuals who were loyal to him before are no longer going to protect hymn them. i think that s a fact many people can agree upon. with that guys, i have to wrap up this conversation. good to see you again. getting to the truth in the
apparently trump didn t think he was up for it. we will see if he actually can clear trumps name in this case and knock the ball out of park. i think trump would be incredibly grateful and be absolutely willing to appoint giuliani to some sort of position here in the government. i m grateful to the two of you getting up early and talking to he moo. coming up, flip or fight? the legal choices facing michael cohen and the factors that may decide it for him. i m not a bigwig.
could then be picked up and furthered, you have to follow that lead and then the second thing is what he says needs to be corroborated. you interview a witness or a tart or a subject then you want to check to see if what they are telling you is true. that s going to take more than two weeks. have you seen the president s three tweets this morning? i will ask my director will to put them up here. i will be happy to read them. have you read them? i have not wreath read them. let me read them. the new york times and the third rate reporter named may goy haberman, known as crooked age flunkie who i don t speak to are going out of their way to industry by relationship with michael cohen in hopes this he will flip. they went out of their way. michael is a businessman for his own account, lawyer who i always liked and respected. most people will flip if the government lets them out of trouble even fit means lying or making up stories. sorry, i don t see michael doing
that despite the horrible witch hundred and the dishonest media. what is your interpretation of that? is there anything there? is this the president signaling something to michael cohen? i read that as the president trying to signal something to michael cohen. you know, the new york times story last night really put an emphasis on the history between mr. cohen and mr. trump. and the way in which mr. trump treated him pretty awfully during the time that mr. cohen worked for him and this is a buttering up if you read it that way. that s how it reads to me, that he is trying to tell michael cohen that you have always been loyal to you, i will always be loyal to you. i m putting out a good word for you out here in the press and in the public. that s my wink and a knot nod to you to stay on my team. you have paraphrased it well there, liam, what the new york times said. but i guess my question, is there a there there? if the president is saying or infearing that michael cohen he bel