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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 02:55:00

unfortunate. for most of us, if you want to influence the courts, you write a lot rubble article about it, and hope someone reads, it and they. don t you write it and the kiss briefing you have someone reads it and you know what side it. you don t buy a building across the street from the supreme court, which is what this reverend did. he was over $30 million for this purpose of changing the course of american politics and part of that project was influencing these justices and to do that, he bought a building across the street from the court. he got access to courts employees. this isn t what ordinary people do if they want to be heard by the courts. this is not how justice works. it s not. i was going to. say melissa murray, professor at nyu school law and photos of the wonderful eagle podcast strict scrutiny, it s great to have, you thank you so much for your time! thank you. we will be right back. back you know, it seems like hope and trust are in short supply.

Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 02:48:00

it s a strategy to lobby some of the most influential people in the country has worked this well, why stop now? joining us now is melissa murray, she s a professor of new york university school of law, co-host of the legal podcast a must close sense, strict scrutiny and msnbc legal analyst. it s great to see you, thank you for coming on the show! thanks for having me. this is a lot to sow why this isn t headline news like across the country and it is shocking, and it is unacceptable if you believe in the independence of the judiciary. how can this be going on? well that is the question, and everyone has been talking about the reported lake and liberals versus hobby lobby decision, but that s not really the story. that is burying the lead. the real story is this coordinated highly finance campaign to get access to these justices naturally they were successful. they got access to some of the most conservative justices, and we don t know if it shaped the outcome in any decision,

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