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Transcripts for MSNBC MSNBC Live With Katy Tur 20191203 19:30:00

of the screen, you can see a better version of the copy and the understood line in black. so giuliani and sondland added this. correct. this again goes to did you want to clean up corruption in certain part of the world r or were you going after the bidens and when you had a statement on the left that talked about just cleaning up corruption, it says quote, on the left, complete a transparent unbiased investigation of all available facts. that s more defensible. that wasn t good enough. they wanted burisma in it and the u.s. allies here of the president apparently according to this, wrote it. mika, they say that donald trump just mepgsed biden in that call with president zelensky on the 25th, he mentioned biden in passing. it was not a big thing, not to be taken too seriously, but even if it was, it was perfectly acceptable to be looking into biden and burisma because it was

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Transcripts for MSNBC MSNBC Live With Katy Tur 20191203 19:06:00

truth. this portion sticks out. a call on september 9th, which would have occurred in the middle of the night is at odds with the wait of the evidence and not backed up by any records the white house was willing to provide ambassador sondland. so ambassador sondland said the president told him there was no quid pro quo and he relayed that to diplomat bill taylor in that series of text messages that were released a few months ago. we ve all read them. and there was a question, a weird, five-hour delay between sondland s last text message that said it was crazy to withhold aid in order to start investigations and sondland replied five hours later, let me be clear, there s no quid pro quo. he was on a call with the president and democrats are questioning whether he said there s no quid proquo to stond land. and the white house, there are no responsive documents about this call and again, the white house and nancy pelosi keeps saying this. if you have exculpatory evidence

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Transcripts for MSNBC MSNBC Live With Katy Tur 20191203 19:28:00

information that was handed over by anybody. i believe from my looking while you guys were talking, this is from a subpoena to at&t. i wonder if rudy giuliani is surprised by this right now. that s an important point about the important investigative process and why subpoenas matter, why elections have consequences. why the white house defiance has gotten them so far. one, a loft these what s app messages which were drafted by sondland, ultimately gabecame t proof that s become public and we re seeing at&t complying and that s giving you information about the white house that the white house has tried to keep secret. i have a new thing here that s interesting. for viewers who have been following along, we ve been talking about this period in august where the negotiating has been going on and we talked about these newly released text messages and phone call logs that showed rudy giuliani talking to the very office that controlled the money that democrats alleged was part of the effo

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Transcripts for MSNBC MSNBC Live With Katy Tur 20191203 19:09:00

onset. how do you do this as a lawyer yourself, what do you do when the other side is refuse tog acknowledge the truth sfl zbr i ll show you with the visual aid. we have the whole report. we don t claim to have read it all because it is this thick. hundreds of pages and we re going through it as team work as you ve been going through it with our colleagues and experts. one thing that jumps out to me in what we re actually learning here, is this is a two pronged attack. many said will it be a three or four. one, the misconduct alleged against donald trump and two, the obstruction. i would note the obstruction is not in doubt at all because the president has said that he won t participate with a fair process. he s attack ed the the process, but everyone knows he s not participating. so the last hundred pages of this go over that. the first 140 pages or so go through what we learned in the hearings with new evidence basically laying out the case

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