Everything is on the up and up, if this was a peft call, you would want even to go and tell your story and the fact they havent done so to me is incredibly telling. Mark, garrett, who i hope is getting a chance to read through these 17 pages of the summary, the preface to the report. Ive asked you this before. Listen, if theres no wrong doing and perry or mulvaney wanted to fund the president , republicans, you got your shot to call some people. Over to katy tur. Thank you very much. Good afternoon. Were following Breaking News at this hour. The Intelligence Committee has just released its report on the impeachment inquiry. House democrats say in no Uncertain Terms the president personally solicit Election Interference from a foreign governmecountry, quote, the evi overwhelming and so, too, is the evidence of his obstruction of congress. Joining me now is garrett and
jake. Also with us, former intel staffer, mika. Everybody, welcome. Garrett, you were just talking with stephanie and al
the omb number. maybe that was a pocket dial or butt dial then at 15:57. 3:57, 40 odd minutes the call with the omb number, there s a 22 sexd call with tsecond call the white house switchboard. a 17 second call. a couple hours later. seems like he s trying to get ahold of somethibody and is not being put through with the duration of these calls. this adds to the evidence people saw in those public hearings because this is all happening, this log is august 8th. on august 9th, we know from public tennells that became public, and i m reading again from this new report you have, sondland saying potus wants a deliverable on august 9th, you have ambassador volcker saying we ve consulted with everythion quote, including rue di, let s get back on the phone. so we knew there was a lot of plotting going on. what s new is not only is rudy giuliani in the center of this
different dimensions. they re just not accepting the same facts. republicans are accepting the facts that were laid out by a multitude of witnesses and testified to what was happening in ukraine with the president wanting investigations. if you were on the house sb intelligence committee, how do you engage with that? directly, do you ignore it? the strategy? i think it s a real challenge here because the republican prebuttal ignores some clear facts and just claims that they don t exist. saying things like there was no conditionality when everyone saw sondland testify that there was at least as far as the white house meeting and he didn t know about the military aid. there are things where the republican report is clearly just cherry picking what has happened here so i think you have a really difficult time arguing when one side is not really looking at all of the facts presented. ari, you ve just joined me
to a lot of democrats who look at the evidence and say it seems bad, but not as cut and dry as they d like it to be, not that they doubt it, but as the public might want it to be, obstruction is quite cut and dry, they say. they say the administration didn t make people available. they didn t send documents that they believed should be available and thus, they were not r participating in a lawful investigation. this administration has at times bristled many times. congress has a role here and the administration did not throughout the process, acknowledge that and democrats are at this point ringing them up on that and remember b, this happened under nixon as well. this is not a foreign idea. the administration must under most circumstances, participate. here, they did not and they might see the consequences for that. jake, there s also another portion. democrats seem to be questioning whether sondland was telling the
public. it s not enough to go after the bidens if nobody knows about it. if fareed isn t in on it, it s not good enough. it may sound ridiculous but that s literally what the report and the evidence shows they were seeking. sondland testified to that. step tseven, the president conditions military aid, raising alarm and that s where seven and eight start to fold into the reactionol and the coverup. why is this important, why am i going through the steps? because one phone call, no matter how bad, does not a presidency make. you could come up with a scenario where a president said ridiculously bad things on a phone call, took it back, apologized, dealt with it. i don t know that i president gets impeached over one phone call. what they re saying in this report is the phone call that we heard about that s been discussed so much, that was but one little piece of a wide ranging, organized alleged conspiracy with rudy giuliani calling the shots, controlling the llmoney, all that and that t