police chief, are you with me? patrick oliver? yes, i am here. i m wondering if you have an opinion as to what people should think about their continued mistrust. we just heard of one of the brothers of the victims who said he no longer trusts the cleveland police and now after a decision like today, he s going to have to take matters into his own hands. what s your thinking or feeling about the trust or the lack thereof of cleveland police and even more so now, after this not guilty verdict? well as far as the not guilty verdict is concerned. i think that s proper decision because proof beyond a reasonable doubt is about a 95% weight of probability that the person is guilty of the offense. and that type of evidence was not offered in this case. the issue of police legitimacy and procedural justice is really the key question. people have a lack of trust in
made that decision with whatever input or power there is may be. that s something he would have to answer and i don t know if the people can particularly point to that input as where this went wrong. so are you inferring that that prosecutor would know about the real viability of that kind of charge on the one out of 13 officers prior to making that decision? we would hope our elected officials would have the experience the temperment and the wisdom and leadership to have known that. and known better. if there is a problem here in cleveland, i think a lot of the responsibility lies on those who selected just one individual. what happened here today was not unforeseeable. avery freeman, back with us now, you re there in cleveland. has the discussion been in your view particularly among attorney circles from the very
life was justified, and therefore, he was acquitted as to that too. i think it fuels a larger perception of you know police police conduct and the larger discussion of whether police are overly policing overly aggressive. we also have to be mindful to the other point, fredricka. that is that was raised in the defense in this case. that officers have yet split decision does make these actions and to engage in the decision to take a life or not take a life. and whether those actions are reasonable or unreasonable that s a discussion we have to continue to have. let s take you live to cleveland and cnn s ryan young is there. ryan what s remarkable here too, you have a great mix of people who are protesting but you re also seeing in large part a rather more mature community. ryan young, are you with me now? i am i got several people talking to me in my ear right
that he believed brelo believed his life was in danger. so we got to go back out to our communities as elected officials and community leaders to say that although we may not agree wholeheartedly with any decision that s laid out, we live in a country of law and order and looting and rioting is not the way that we get to the ultimate goal of law and order and justice. there s going to be an election in 2016. there s going to be an election in 2017. that s the time that we go to the ballot to show where we feel our frustration should be handled. there you go thank you so much. ramona thank you very much for all your help. councilman we were listening to cleveland councilman zach reed there who is impressing the people out in the streets protesting he said they are shocked. they are shocked about the not guilty verdict, rendered by the judge. for cleveland police officer michael brelo, who was facing two counts of voluntary
the last fatal moments of these two. so back with me now, walter madison and joey jackson, avery freeman and walter as you look at these images what s taking place in your home town there in cleveland. and seeing that people are not satisfied with the judge s very lengthy, nearly an hour-long explanation before he rendered his final verdict. yes. fredricka, the people you know they re in just complete disbelief. they know what happened. and in many instances, i don t want to get off this point. our county prosecutor was once a judge. so he understands from the enforcement point of view as well as the judicial point of view. what charges are appropriate. and i won t argue with their discretion, but there was some election at some point to select one individual assign him sole responsibility for the deaths of these two people. how does that decision come about? well that s a decision that they make exclusively. that s their discretion they