but i m bleefr believer in old school politics end at the water s edge. you heard him say he would carpet bomb isis. you re a former air force pilot, would that work, a? maybe there s a place at some point, but we have precision weapons for a reason now. precision guided munitions are way more effective than carpet bombing. we haven t carpet bombed since it s been quite a while. it s really flying over, taking dumb bombs unguided and just opening up the bay doors. it s what we did in world war ii. with the technology we have today, i think saying things like carpet bombing and making the sand glow does not build into the good healthy debate like what we saw you guys put on and that we should be having in this very serious moment in a very serious presidential election. the department of defense u.s. military confirmed there are pictures of d.o.d. personnel, department of defense personnel, in libya right now. as you know gadhafi is gone, isis seems to be taking over
for one. definitely didn t stop on the stage in las vegas. i think their campaign understands they deent have a path to victory. their only hope is to try to launch false attacks and, unfortunately, that s something they have been doing more and more. everyone on that stage talks tough. i d like to say we re going to destroy isis and make the sand glow. that s easy to say. what are you going to do it with? let me bring in todd gilman, washington bureau chief for the dallas morning news. welcome back. good to be with you. i want a fact check from you. cruz supported green. cards. rubio is a leading in drafting immigration reform bill. they both are saying they are going to come down hard on undocumented immigrants. both sons of cuban immigrants. who do you think is the tougher candidate when it comes to
won on that stage last night because all those candidates are selling themselves as a conservative. and the exchange ted cruz now has moved up solidly now into second place. there are a couple of exchanges he had with marco rubio. but i thought one great moment for cruz was when he said, yeah, when they kept pushing him, you mean you re going to carpet bomb a city and make the sand glow and kill the babies and the children. and he said no, i m going to carpet bomb isis. and if you join them, it s your death warrant. i thought that was a good line. right. how do you think that went and the exchanges with rubio over metadata, surveillance and immigration went? i think cruz has it slightly easier here because i think, you know, cruz s weakness, supposedly, is on these national security, on the big security state. rubio s weakness is on immigration. but the party has a general indifference of opinion on the
ted cruz is really an outsider. that he s really a force from the outside. because ted cruz is backed by big wall street money. his wife works at goldman sachs. he s a senator of the united states, even though he doesn t want to admit it half the time. he worked at a big wall street law firm. he s a debater, not a builder as you said. it s going to come down to that at some point. trump is going to have to take on cruz. he may not do it full bore in iowa, but if cruz wins iowa, then it s you talk about making the sand glow. that s what donald trump is going to do heading into new hampshire. because trump absolutely has to win new hampshire. he absolutely has to win in new hampshire. that s a guy who still feels he hasn t put the pedal to the metal at all.
nervous one here. this is a battle that s been brewing for quite some time and has finally boiled over. the gop field leaving las vegas with new battle lines drawn. everyone on that stage talks tough. it s easy to stand here tonight or this morning and say we re going to utterly destroy isis, we re going to blow them up, we re going to make the sand glow. that s easy to say. what are you going to do that with? reporter: the sparring with marco rubio and ted cruz moving from the debate stage to the campaign trail today. i think senator rubio s campaign understands that if conservatives continue to unite they don t have a path to victory, and so their only hope is to try to launch false attacks. reporter: the rivalry between the two first-term senators revealing divisions within the republican party. on government surveillance. we are at a time when we need more tools, not less tools. the tool we lost, the metadata program was a valuable tool we no longer have at our disposal