i m going to talk to a city council member who said the shooter may have been looking for a specific doctor at that campus. as we get you up to date on what happened in tulsa this evening, we re not going to forget for one moment what s going on in uvalde, texas. how can we? and we re going to look at all the important questions that we re asking there tonight later in this hour. but we cannot turn away from the reality that this is happening all across this country. gun violence, as an epidemic, only seems to be growing. and tonight, it is throwing yet another american city into mourning. and right now i want to bring in katherine richard nealen berg of the tulsa police department. captain, thank you for joining me this evening. it s really stunning that here we are again and perhaps for many people not stunning of the state of affairs today because no one believed it would happen in their town. and here it is in tulsa. what is the latest? what do you know about what s happe
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eerily inevitable. and eit s just something that s haunting. i wonder what do you make of what s necessary. you ve been on the ground. you ve seen what happened. you understand the complexity and really the simplicity of the response and what they should be. walk me through it a little bit, samantha, in terms of what do you see as missing in this conversation? what do you think people ought to be considering when they re thinking about a reaction to these mass shootings? if i m totally honest, i m frustrated that we re always talking about the reaction and not the prevention. we react to these things. and i think a lot of schools and districts have a lot of practice, and we can lean heavily on each other on how to recover from these things. but why, as a society, are we waiting it to happen every single community before we decide to make some sort of response to prevent it? and the idea of this being something that we react to as opposed to being proactive.
and day out from the start until everything wrapped up was to be with that family to make sure that any information came across, the families had it first, to assist the families in navigating the investigation and the media, even to go get milk if the family needed somebody to go out shopping. so, there are ways to really mitigate the families and what they re going through. and i don t want to discount the experience of police officers who are responding to these scenes. i mean, the horror of what is being seen, the emotional reaction. it is haunting really for the rest of people s lives and thinking about what they ve come across and trying to grapple with it. samantha, i want to turn to you, because you were a student at columbine high school when the mass shooting occurred. and i understand that for years you didn t even seek out therapy or counseling because you thought, hey, because i wasn t somebody who was actually injured, i had no right to do