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Of water until the water ran out. And after spending their day like this in 90degree temperatures, many were turned away from the Distribution Event at hawkins airfield. The director of the state Emergency Management says seven Distribution Sites will be set up by thursday. In the meantime, people turned to stores where the shelves are nearly bare. Its very frustrating. Its very frustrating to have to fight for some water, you know what im saying. You got to mess around and buy five cases of water just to stay hyd hydrated. Reporter its just kind of scary. We dont know when anythings going to get done. You come in the store and its empty. Water were talking about. Lets back up and talk about how we got here. Moderate flooding in jackson, mississippi, crippled the citys largest Water Facility. National guard troops trained for the devastation of hurricanes, theyve been deployed, but this is not a disaster, some once in a lifetime storm. American citizens in 2022 struggling for the most basic human need is the culmination of decades of failure to fix a system that dates back to the 1950s. This failure is so foreseeable that the president mentioned jackson by name more than a year ago. Never again can we allow what happened in flint, michigan, and jackson, mississippi, can never let it happen again. That was part of the celebration for the Senate Passage of the infrastructure act. It allocated billions of dollars for mississippi Includinge Ing 429 million for water infrastructure. That money is supposed to stretch across the entire state. Where is that money now . Im joined now by Jackson City Council member aaron banks and cassandra welchland. Shes a social work trer tryingo help her neighbors and a mother of three trying to get her family through this crisis. Cassandra, let me start with you and how your family is dealing with this. Thank you, victor, for having me. So our family today weve been, you know, working to just adjust. My children are out of school and we have been having to, of course, buy water to cook, to brush our teeth, to just do the basic necessities that we need in order just to keep our family afloat. So today was online zoom and also feeding our kids at home, but the water was we had low water pressure today. The water was brown when we turned it on this morning. Weve gotten a little bit more pressure as the day has gone on, but its definitely been of course an inconvenience, not just for my family but for families across the city of jackson. Weve got a picture that you sent us of the water that comes out of the spigot. This is at your bathtub. The mayor says that the city right now is under a boil water advisory. If you boiled that water, i mean, its brown. Would you even use that water after boiling it . So we have been on a boil water notice for almost a little over a month now, about a month, and we have not used that water to even cook with. Today will be no other day. We still would not use that water. We dont boil it to do anything with it because grit is in the water, and so we will not use it. And so weve been, you know, going to the store, you know, buying water, and not just my family but also our organization, the Mississippi Black womens round table, how weve been serving the community and have begun to put our boots on the ground with other partners to be able to serve the community. So no, we will not use that water, and today i had to remind my kids, you know, dont use the water to brush your teeth. You need to get a bottle of water and so we have bottles of water in their rest rooms because grit comes out of and over the weekend it was even worse. It was brown, and this is even before, you know, the cresting of the reservoir happened. So its a pretty its a real inconvenience, and it is a Public Safety issue, particularly when youre talking about our children and youre talking about, you know, elders in the community. Its a really bad Public Safety issue for not just my family but for all of our families in jackson, mississippi. Yeah, beyond consuming it or using it to brush your teeth, i mean, i couldnt imagine anybody would want to bathe in that water that we saw in the bathtub. Councilman, let me come to you, and no community should have to rely on the water we just showed and not have, you know, reliable, clean, potable water. But id be remiss if i didnt point out that this is a majority black city, 82 there in jackson. Tell me what youre seeing and how this is impacting the people that you represent. Yeah, first of all, i appreciate it. Look, it is very hard to bear. This is not our first time here. Two years ago february we had a winter storm where city of jackson went around four weeks without water, but however, the subjects area, which is the ward i represent went six weeks to seven weeks without any water at all, and since that time there has not been a month where we have not experienced no flow to low flow in certain areas in south jackson. And so its very frustrating. I would say that the citizens here are resilient because all hands step up to the plate as always to help make that were serving our vulnerable communities and that were able to provide nonpotable and potable water, so were used to the emergency. Sated part about it is and the sad reality is this is becoming somewhat of a norm, and we deserve a better quality of life right here in the capital city of jackson, mississippi. So whats the plan . I know there was a Water Distribution today. We talked about it, several hundred cases of water at the end of it cars had to just make a uturn and leave because there was none left. What are you going to do for the people that live there for the next several days or weeks until this is solved . So look, it will be the same that we did in 2020. Since last night around 7 30, there was a 6,000 gallon tanker deployed in my ward at Forester High School that is just providing flushing water. One of the first things that we realized is that people need to be able to flush because that becomes a problem as far as making sure that, you know, people have that quality of life they need, especially when school is out, children are at home, you know, people are at home, and so we wanted to provide those gallons of water in those tankers throughout ward six to make sure theyre able to flush. On top of that, we are talking with partners, people like world central kitchen, people like my cox National Black caucus to try to get help and to bring that bottled water, the city of jackson has stepped up and providing power so that we can continue that, but you know, at the end of the day, we need a fix, and the same attention that was given to flint, michigan, we need that same attention given to jackson. We need to make sure that these resources that need to come to this city, instead of them going to the state, we need to make sure that our legislators on the federal level and that theres some type of Executive Authority to make sure it comes directly to the city so we can do what we need to do even if that means getting a new water plant. And ill add to, that victor, one of the things that, you know, tomorrow morning we have, of course, partnered the Mississippi Black womens round table have partnered with New Horizon Church and other par partners, peoples advocacy institute, and so tomorrow morning we will be having truckloads of water thats going to be coming every day to be able to distribute to communities. Again, one of the things that aaron talked about is and you said, we are 80 black community, but also a third of those folks live in poverty, and many of our children are on free and reduced lunch. And so when we talk about whos impacted those families, were talking about jobs, right . They have to stay at home, you know, with their families, and so were talking about child care. So not only are we still coming out of covid, which is an economic security, you know, issue for so many families, were still here trying to provide those kinds of resources. People dont have 1,000 saved up to be able to meet the crises that is before us, and so community has been doing this for two years now, coming to our own rescue, and so we will continue to do that, but definitely as aaron said, the state must kick in the money, the resources so that we can get our infrastructure fixed. There certainly needs to be a fix. I mean, every human deserves clean water, and the people there in jackson pay taxes so theyre paying for that water. Councilman aaron banks, cassandra welchland, i thank you both. Yes, sir, thank you so much. Much more on this growing water emergency ahead, how does a capital in the United States of america have no safe Running Water to drink in 2022, and how does this crisis get resolved . And were waiting for a big filing from the Justice Department soon about the search of Donald Trumps home. What new details might be revealed. Well talk about that ahead. Announcer Cnnnn Tonight i brought to you by free style libre. 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Two years ago the citys water failed an epa inspection, and then last year the epa and the city of jackson agreed to Work Together to make needed improvements, and still, since february 2021, listen to this, people in jackson have been under some sort of a boil water notice at least four times according to the citys website. And as recently as last month, City Officials found cause for concern about lead and copper in routine water samples from residents taps. Im joined by former congresswoman Abby Finkenauer and former special to george w. Bush Scott Jennings, and before there was jackson, there was flint. Sara sidner has covered the struggles there after most of the National Media moved on. Thank you all for being here. Sara, let me start with you because it is unimaginable that we are here again with a major city, and im going to say it again, a major black city in america that is struggling just to get clean drinking water. Thats right. I think it isnt unimaginable, though. I think it is probable, and if you look at some of the studies, there was one out of texas a m that said, you know, if there is a significant pofrverty in a ple and if the place happens to be nonwhite, the likelihood of having water issues goes way up. And so when you think about that and what has happened here, these are just two examples. There are places in alabama, in louisiana, in texas, where this is happening or something similar to this has been happening with the boil water orders that go on and on and on, and people in the black communities, you know, flint was one of those major examples that was just so egregious that the world stood up and listened, and they watched what was happening, ask they are still dealing with issues, and one of the big issues is particularly in the black community, they do not trust the water. People are still going and getting bottled water because they know that lead can lead to long years of problems in their children, difficulties learning, hyperactivity, all kinds of things. Cancer risk goes up, and so because of that, there is a huge distrust and a warranted one by folks in the black communities particularly in poor neighborhoods. Abby, how did we get here with the two of the biggest federal spending bills in u. S. History have not gotten jackson where it needs to be. Id be asking what has governor tate been doing. We know what governor tate has been doing. Hes been Walking Around the street talking about Critical Race Theory and bathrooms instead of doing his dang job as the governor of that state. In april, this actual year in 2022, they passed and he signed a 524 million tax cut when now his people dont even have drinking water. And by the way, its not like he doesnt know, right . This is the capital of mississippi. He knows and what has he done . Look, they passed the Infrastructure Bill, which by the way, only one of mississippis senators actually voted for and only one of their congresspersons did, the only democrat sitting there actually voted to bring in that money, but it also relies on the state and the localities to do their jobs and bring those dollars into the communities who need them. The epa has been trying to work with the city, yet theres still been holdups, even when it comes to hiring people for the Water Facility itself to keep it running. They knew it was hang. The fact theyve been under a boil warning for the last month is absurd that this is where we are right now. But again, it is when Public Servants fail to do their dang jobs and cant even do the basics. Scott. Yeah, i think this is one of the worst run city in america. Youre upset with governor reeves but this mayor and this city council has utterly failed, Councilman Bank we had on, hes been in office since 2017. Theyve known about the Water Problems in jackson for quite some time. I think the Infrastructure Bill that passed according to what i learned from the Governors Office today is actually going to end up funding some of the fixes in jackson along with some state money. It does take time to do that, but i think local leadership matters. Its mayors and City Councils that manage things like water, and they have utterly failed the people of jackson. Theyve also had issues there with their police department. Theyve had issues there with garbage collection. Theres just been a real quality of life degradation. I think its at the feet of the mayor and the city council. You think the governor has no responsibility here . I think the governor has stepped in an unprecedented situation. They have essentially taken over. What i learned today is that the governor Governors Office, a republican, and the federal president ial administration run by a democrat are actually working together here. You have three layers of government, federal, state, and local. Federal and state have stepped in together. The epa has been after the city of jackson for years on maintenance and stacffing and theyve not done their job in the city. But governor reeves and joe bidens epa working in a bipartisan fashion are actually functioning properly at the moment. But that city has got to step up. And i hear you to an extent here, but come on, 524 million tax cut when this is happening in the capital city of jackson, mississippi . Why hasnt the State Government helped to do their actual jobs . I mean, this is the actual problems. Who do you think runs Water Utility . These localities the mayor. Where do these localities get the funding though . This is how it works. Its on states to step up and work with the federal government and to work with these localities. They knew it was happening, they watched it happen and yet they havent cared or done enough. Thats sad that this is the United States of america and this continues to happen. I mean, last thing ill say is this, i remitted iowa when the derecho hit. It was horrific. It was a Natural Disaster nobody saw coming and there i was just trying to feed my people literally and within 45 minutes we were out of food. It was the worst feeling ive ever had in my life. It changed me as a public servant, changed me as a human, and the idea that if i could have known, right, i would have if i had any idea that i could have stopped it, i would have done everything i could to have stopped that. The governor knew this was coming. The mayor knew this was coming, and what happened . They didnt do their dang jobs. Scott, let me ask you about this because there was this last minute change to senate bill 2822 there in mississippi about how the state would spend covid relief money on water. It forces jackson and only jackson to get State Approval before spending money on water and sewer, also sets a deadline to spend the money or lose it. Why set that for only jackson . If its the mayors responsibility, then allow him, give him the resources to then do it. Yeah, to be candid with you i dont know. Not familiar with the particulars of the bill. I do think the State Government because its in jackson has had a fraught relationship with the local leadership in jackson. I mean, look, i think municipal issues like water, garbage, police, i mean, these things are ultimately the job of the mayor and the city council, and although the State Government is there, its pretty unprecedented for the State Government to have to take over the major functions of a city. Which is essentially whats happening now. All right. Sara, thank you for being with us. Abby and scott, stick with us. Theres a big election fight intensifying in pennsylvania exactly ten weeks before the midterms. 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Today he spoke in wilkewilkesb. Donald trump will be there on saturday as he tries to bolster three of his chosen candidates including Republican Senate candidate mehmet oz who is locked in a bitter race with democratic rival John Fetterman. Lets bring in our expert on pennsylvania politics, really everything pennsylvania. Michael smerconish. Good to see you. Lets start here with what were just getting in that John Fetterman will not attend a planned debate there. His campaign cited his recovery from this stroke. How does that inability to debate dr. Oz play into this narrative that oz has created that hes just not physically up to the job . Good evening, victor. Now i know how it feels to live in iowa or New Hampshire with all this Attention Being heaped on pennsylvania as we approach Labor Day Weekend, which you know is the traditional beginning of the fall campaign. The answer to your question is that from the oz perspective, this is a very sensitive issue, and theyve got to tread very lightly. There was an Oz Spokesperson who i think took a cheap shot at fetterman over his health in a vegetable reference. By the same token, i think its fair to Wonder Whether Fetterman is 100 or whether hes going to make a full recovery from that stroke that he had three months ago. Hes really been shielded from the media thus far. One of the interviews that he did was with closed captioning. Hes done two public events. He spoke for about ten minutes at one of them and four minutes at another. So you know, people rightfully, i think, want to know hows he doing, but oz needs to be very careful in how he handles that issue. How do you think that the Fetterman Campaign is handling this recovery. Look, nobody plans obviously for a medical emergency like this. You have to then react to it, but how do you think the campaign is doing . I think that they were not initially forthcoming about exactly what had transpired. Thats pretty welldocumented. The Media Campaign that hes running, both paid media on television and social media is exceptional. I mean, its really struck a chord with people all across the country, but in the end, i think hes going to have to come out and play. In the end, i dont think he can win the campaign, fetterman, by simply running an organized social media or paid Media Campaign. Michael, is there any evidence that this statement that you just reference rd ed f his campaign that said if John Fetterman had ever eaten a vegetable in his life, is that costing him in parts of pennsylvania where otherwise he wouldnt be struggling . Is this creating some problems for dr. Oz . You know, its hard to know, victor. Ive looked at all the polls on this race, and depending on which of those you believe, you could make the argument that both the senate race and the Gubernatorial Race are narrowing. About a month ago, it looked like both josh shapiro whos the democratic nominee for governor and John Fetterman whos the democratic nominee for the senate had doubledigit leads over dr. Mastriano and dr. Oz. Recently tra fall goe and emerson have come out in the last 42 and 78 hours and said the races are really a three to fourpoint race, which is more what i would expect in pennsylvania given that its a very purple state. So ten weeks left to go. Thats an eternity in a year that seemingly is a strong year for republicans, at least we think so. In pennsylvania at least the democrats seem to have the edge. What do you make of president bidens three stops in seven days, wilkesbarre, pittsburgh, philadelphia over the next couple of days . I think hes got roots here, as you know, he was born and spent some of his formative years in scranton. I think pennsylvania could be the whole ball of wax. I mean, senate control, 5050 with the Vice President breaking the ties. In this case its a republican pat toomey whos hanging it up. So you know, this is potentially the easiest pickup for democrats to take control of the United States senate. I also think its accessible. I mean, to be candid i think its accessible are from washington. Its accessible from Rehoboth Beach so he can probably spend the weekend in delaware at his beach house and still make it to pittsburgh for a labor day event. Michael smerconish, my goto for anything about pennsylvania. Good to see you. Thanks, victor. You too. Texas Governor Greg Abbott has sent approximately 9,000 migrants on buses to new york and washington, d. C. , since april, and just in tonight, we have new details about how much this political battle is costing the taxpayers in texas. Cnns Polo Sandoval is here with the brand new reporting. So what do you know . E. Victor, its taken us weeks to get to this point, to get an answer from State Officials as far as how much this Controversial Border busing plan that Governor Abbott announced back in april is costing taxpayers, and now these documents showing these numbers here, just under 13 million and that is as of august 19th. Now, the numbers are fairly conflicting in terms of how many migrants have actually been sent from the southern border to the northeast in the cities of washington and new york, but if you do the math, thats still calculating about 1,400 a person. Im from a Border Region myself, even looked at flights and what it would cost me to fly from south texas to new york tomorrow. Its costing about 500. So it certainly raises some serious questions about the practicality, the cost effectiveness. Greg abbott when he made this announcement that he planned to basically take the border to the door steps of lawmakers in washington and eric adams doorstep in new york made it very clear that he knew this was not going to come cheap, but at the same time it will be interesting to find out once we do get a response, if we get a response from greg abbott if he expected this because, again, if you do the math, it just does not add up when it comes to the amount of money that the state of texas is spending. These are figures that were provided to me by the Texas Division of Emergency Management, and this was in response to a request for information that i filed weeks ago. And again, laying out that clear number and its important to point out that it likely continues to grow tonight as critics continue to say that this is simply the cost of making a political point as Governor Abbott seeks reelection. He maintains, however, from the start that this is meant to provide some relief to some of those communities along the border that have been burdened with this increased number of migrants. Now, we should also mention that texas is not alone, arizona also implementing a similar proom program, and were in the process of hopefully obtaining similar documents and figures from arizona as well. Control room, put that slate back up with the numbers, 1,400 a head for a bus ride here, 12. 7 million for what is essentially a political stunt from the governor. Polo says a flight is 500. Greyhound will get you there for 295. Polo sandoval with the reporting for us tonight, thank you, polo. Thanks, victor. Were expecting a major filing from the Justice Department. Its in response to the request by Donald Trumps lawyers for a Special Master to oversee the review of items that were retrieved from maralago. 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At any moment, the Justice Department will file its response to the trump teams request for a Special Master. Thats the third party to oversee evidence collected from the expresident s primary home. Judge ilene cannon of the Southern District of florida set todays deadline, and she has already signaled her, as she called it, preliminary intent to grant this request. But will she . She did grant the doj permission to double the size of its brief if needed to, quote, adequately address the legal and factual issues raised by Donald Trumps filings. Lets bring in now former federal prosecutor, miles taylor, a former Trump Administration Homeland Security official, and Scott Jennings is back with us. Shane, let me start with you. These legal and factual issues that they say need to be addressed, whats that mean to you on what we should expect to see . Well, to me its a good sign that they asked for more page length. Anytime a lawyer asks for more room to write, that means they have something to say. Makes our job harder. Hey, billable hours, right . You got it. They need in my opinion to push back really hard against this. This is basically a judge trying to meddle in a criminal investigation, and it sets a very bad precedent, so i think theres a lot of room for them to attack the idea thats been pushed by trumps lawyers, but its really important to attack it because it sets a really dangerous precedent in my view. Why do you say meddling here . You think the judge is going too far . Yeah, i think shes basically inserting herself into a criminal investigation. So judges typically oversee cases, not investigations. Caveat grand jury, technically chief judge, they bring issues to them. This is not a case yet. Its a Search Warrant, a magistrate approved it, and her taking on the case is really out of line. I mean, hi i had some hopes whe she asked them to flesh it out, explain why its coming to me. Now she signaled her intention to grant it, and its just not appropriate. They dont even use Special Masters for this type of issue. First of all, im not a lawyer, but i have seen several episodes of law and order, csi and other shows. Let me just weigh in. It strikes me that the trump team has asked for something here because they think its good for their defense of this issue. And so if youre the department of justice and youre trying to and this is a question for you and youre trying to engender Public Confidence that youre treating donald trump fairly when youre being accused of treating him unfairly, is there a harm in granting this request . Is there anything about a Special Master that would harm their ability to do what they want to do here . Oh, theres enormous potential for the harm. So just one hypothetical, right . They already have an fbi Team Reviewing to say these things may be privileged, so we wont have the investigators look at them. Lets say the Special Master looks at them and says i disagree. I think youve looked at things improper. Whos going to resolve that . Well, theyve got to litigate that. It can drag on forever, and it sets a precedent for using civil cases to jam up a criminal case, which i think is a real problem. As another nonlawyer at the table but i stayed at a Holiday Inn Express weigh in and shan i want you to dissect my argument and destroy it if you disagree with it, but i think at least politically, you know, putting aside the criminal piece, politically i dont think this is great news for trump. We dont know whats in these documents that are coming out tonight, but anytime the Justice Department is getting an opportunity to go back in front of the judge, ask for more page length, talk about this in more details, its another opportunity for them to show this is a very serious criminal investigation. I mean, trumps entire defense right now is that this is politicized, and theyve got another opportunity in a very disciplined, methodical way to show this is a real case, which by the way is being overseen by an fbi with a director who i worked with during the Trump Administration, a director that donald trump himself appointed, so i think the Justice Department has got more Opportunity Thes here, while it may not be what they want, to at least go out there and say what they are doing in a very defensible way that looks apolitical rather than what trump is trying to say it is. Scott, let me borrow your question, Aithe Appointment of Special Master could create some delay. In the context of National Security, does that potentially offer some harm if this is stretched out over days, weeks, months as theyre looking through these documents determining what the fbi, what the doj can look at . There are two elements of National Security harm here. One is the actual information that sat relatively unsecured at the expresident s property for an extended period of time, actually, three potential points of harm. There was that one, okay, which is what this case is all about. Second potential avenue of harm here is the actual information thats going to have to be considered potentially in the courts. Its going to be hard to prosecute a case like this without some of this information potentially coming out to more people. This is highly controlled information from Human Intelligence sources, signals intelligence sources and often in cases like this, its the governments default to not want to declassify that information for these cases. So thats another potential problem, but the third bigger aspect of National Security harm here is the political intimidation and violence thats building around this case. A poll just came out today that showed that 50 of strong republicans said they feel like in the next ten years civil war is likely. Thats a ugov economist poll. Thats really scary stuff, and that attitude is being fanned by the president s allies. Ted cruz came out and said he thinks the fbi should be defunded. That sort of rhetoric is gining up a combustible political environment. It strikes me there is a healthy amount of skepticism of whats happening among republicans in this case among donald trump. It strikes me that the department of justice ought to not allow for any openings for republicans or Trump Supporters or even the former president himself to say, see, theyre putting their thumb on the scale against me. Theyre not allowing me to mount whatever defense that i should be able to mount. And the other thing i think they could do, and weve talked about it before, is a little transparency here i think would go a long way, and i recognize there are National Security documents, you cant just put them out. But you could show them to the gang of eight in congress or the intelligence committees, and then those people who have clearance and we trust them to look at documents all the time, could come out and reassure their constituents and the American People that, yes, this is a serious case. The documents we saw are of a nature that would warrant, you know, the resources that are being put into it. I think doing these things would create at least the appearance that everything is being done here to reassure people this isnt just a political hit job. What about the degree of transparency up to this point . I mean, were seeing parts of the affidavit. The Property Receipt was released. The Search Warrant details were released. In many ways, this is unprecedented transparency. We dont know whats in the documents. But youre not supposed to know because theyre top secret. I understand, but im just telling you the political reality of what the average republican would say is theres a reason that theyre not telling us whats in there because whatever, fill in the blank. I like to joust with Scott Jennings, its one of My Favorite Things to disagree with him. But sadly i have to disagree with him on this. Why are you sad . This should be a happy moment for you, miles, you can come back to the republicans anytime you feel like it. Inviting me across the table. But i will agree with scott here, which is that, look, the Justice Departments default is probably, no, they dont want a Special Master. They think their judgment is right about what documents they need to use and not. However, i think there is a Silver Lining here for the Justice Department to say, look, we dont want a Special Master but if you do it, you know, heres some parameters you could prescribe around it, and it will look like doj is saying we got nothing to hide here. 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People close to him said he has to beef up his legal. Team he is now done that with chris kais former florida solicitor general. But really, it does not matter who is on the team, if your client is not being honest with, you if youre not listening to your clients. Thats exactly right. From all reports, its got to be a very nightmarish kind of client have. Evan cochrane, former federal prosecutor, former proud friend of mine, im Great Respect for him. I think in a very tough spot, especially with having representative to doj, hey, nothing more here. And it turns out there is more there. They either have to disavow their client, saying theyre misled, which they really dont want to do as lawyers. Or, theyre going to be questions themselves, whether they were complicit. Thats really an impossible situation to be an. And really, they should be withdrawing at this point. And like you said, does not matter what lawyer you have, if the client will not listen to, youre not going to do anything. Chris kai former florida solicitor general. Hes got close ties to former general desantis, Service Transition team. What does this mean to you . Two things you might have in life that are good, a good barber and a good lawyer. You want to listen to them both. But in this case, i think they clearly upgraded on their legal team. So, if we are somebody that thinks that donald trump needs better legal advice, dont listen to it. This sounds like a positive development for him. But he has been known as a bit of a venue shopper, whether its law, politics, whatever, hes always looking for someone to agree with his instinct. So, i guess well see, well see how this person does. You know, trump has had some interesting lawyers that overtime have been more Tv Personalities than actual lawyers. Theyve gotten him in trouble. Little Tv Personalities. This guy seems like a real lawyer. Yeah. One of the lawyers he went into this was a former or current owing tribute to. There is a b team is going in to this with. And i know christine, shes actually a nice person, a very compassionate person, not the person id want defending in a federal case like this. But, i go back to what shawn just said about the client himself shan. Lets look at what the client did in just the past 24 hours. Even by trump standards, he went on the most off the rails social media banners weve seen the ex president do in a long time, maybe ever. I think we have, it yeah, here it is. I would not encourage anyone to scroll through it. But when you look at some of the details in here, he wants the 2020 election rerun, he wants to be named president again, he promoted qanon conspiracy theories, and almost the most direct way he ever has. I mean, this was really a vortex for republicans. This is really problematic. Elected republicans have to really bad options right now, they can either continue to stand behind the ex president , and get sucked into his vortex, or they can oppose him, and as we saw in this social media feed, become the target of his ire for being rhinos. Either way, hes going to drag them down with them going into the midterms. Im an ex republican now. If i was still in the party, i would say this is the last thing we want going into the midterms. We want to dissociate from donald trump. But look, hes like this magically reappearing and donate. If they dont throw him away, hes going to keep going up in their faces. Not just in the midterms, its gonna extend well beyond the midterms, into 2023. And in this case, could potentially go to 2024. So its a big and continuing headache for the republican party. Theyll be a huge issue, by the way, if this were still going on in the president ial campaign starts, if donald trump runs. I mean, usa today survey out this week says 59 of republicans want him to run. Hes a clear front runner. Could be the nominee, but expect high opposition, but i expect will be the front runner. If this case is still going, on its a tricky thing for the government, the department of justice, which works for joe biden, who says hes running for reelection. That will be investigating a case against donald trump, whose i mean, its a tricky thing. The case wouldve start before the campaign, but also be going on. I think the point here for doj and garlands garland has got to walk the walk and do the top they said hes going to do. Which is he wants to bring back the integrity and the respect of the department. And he says zero politics here. Now frankly, i wish he had been more transparent in the beginning. I think it wouldve been fine to say that even though theyre looking at trump, theyre not charging him or anything. But the complete Radio Silence i think was a little bit problematic. Now, however, he is kind of in the middle. He has shown a little bit, obviously due to enormous public pressure over this. And now the question becomes is it a Slippery Slope . You start to show more and more an effort to make sure that politically it does not look too bad, and prosecutions are not supposed to be politically. And the way to stay away from that is just prosecute the case, do not worry about the politics. All, right we are just about two hours away from this deadline for this filing from the doj. Shan, miles, scott, thank you so much. We will be right back. Sprays take hours astepro starts working in 30 minutes. So you can. Astepro and go. Joe biden and democrats in Congress Just passed the Inflation Reduction Act to lower our energy bills. Investing in americanmade clean energy ans our families will save 1,800 a year on energy bills. Thats more savings for us. [only wanna be with you by hootie the blowfish] discover is accepted at 99 of places in the u. S. 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