wow. it s hard to beat that. virginia republican seems to be saying we lose when we nominate moderates so we re going to win with true believers. john feehery is here for defense. he s republican consultant. salon s joan walsh is in the da s position tonight. what do you do when you re stuck with a lieutenant governor candidate? goo cuccinelli said i will not answer to that guy. a state, you and i know, and joan knows is the average state. the results coming out of virginia these days are about the same as the national average. it s not right wing, not left wing. it s in the middle. what you need to do is make this about terry mcauliffe and not about your lieutenant governor. i don t think most voters in virginia are going to vote for the lieutenant governor at this race. they re going to vote at the top of the ticket. you raise some important points, chris.
622639. go to ed.msnbc.com. we ll bring you the results later in the show. let s bring there byron dorgan, also with us, former vermont governor and dnc chairman howard dean. joan walsh, editor at large, salon.com. good to have you with us. senator dorgan, romney camp is depicting newt gingrich as untrustworthy and self-serving. is that a stretch, or is that the guy you know? you know, i served with him when i was in u.s. house for a number of years, en aen and i ka lot about newt gingrich. these are tough times for the country. we need someone running for president who is serious about the country. to me, at least, would have disqualified someone running for president. i m talking about after i left the house, went to the senate, he became speaker, he was fined $300,000 by the ethics committee of the house for ethical sanctions. he was sanctioned by the
by october 15th when we started focusing on jobs, even though we didn t pass we passed one or two of them, but we focused on it, it s now 45 democrat, 41 republican. that margin is going to grow greater for us if we focus on an issue like this. i want to talk more about the payroll tax holiday. this is senator kyl. he says the payroll tax holiday is threatening social security. take a listen. yeah, that s the problem here is that the payroll tax doesn t go into general revenue. it supports social security. you can t keep extending the payroll tax holiday and have a secure social security. senator, your response to that. well, first, you know, i like senator kyl as a person and we ve worked together on some issues, but gee whiz, he has never been at the front of the line defending social security. that s a bogus argument. and here s why. there s a social security trust fund. it gets money that comes into it. it can come from the payroll tax, but here for every dollar we re
the liberal icon barney frank is calling it quits and he s not pulling punches on the way out. i did not think i had lived a good enough life to be rewarded by newt gingrich being the republican nominee. i ll ask congressman dennis kucinich what frank s departure means for america. breaking news for herman cain. we re bracing, we re getting ready, and you put it in your words, for what? another accusation that i had an affair with someone. another woman. salon s joan walsh on how herman s latest bombshell affects romney and gingrich. tonight, an ed show exclusive. we ll have the latest petition count for the walker recall in wisconsin. the number of signatures is shocking, and you ll hear it here first on the ed show. good to have you with us tonight, folks. hope you had a nice thanksgiving. good to be back with you. in less than five weeks time, unemployment benefits will expire for more than 6,000 americans. that s a big number.
way out. i did not think i had lived a good enough life to be rewarded by newt gingrich being the republican nominee. i ll ask congressman dennis kucinich what frank s departure means for america. breaking news for herman cain. we re bracing, we re getting ready, and you put it in your words, for what? another accusation that i had an affair with someone. another woman. salon s joan walsh on how herman s latest bombshell affects romney and gingrich. tonight, an ed show exclusive. we ll have the latest petition count for the walker recall in wisconsin. the number of signatures is shocking, and you ll hear it here first on the ed show. good to have you with us tonight, folks. hope you had a nice thanksgiving. good to be back with you. in less than five weeks time, unemployment benefits will expire for more than 6,000 americans. that s a big number. in less than one week, congress