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in play. there are four more solidly conservative justices and might vote to overrule roe versus wade and others that would go well out of the way to protect it and he justice kennedy is the question mark. all right. tom, thanks so much for being with us. i want to bring in erin carmone. she s done a lot of work on women s reproductive health, a best-selling book out right now on ruth bader ginsburg on the supreme court. your reaction when you hear they re taking this up. this is a first time in a long time the court is even approached the issue of abortion. this is a very big deal. for years advocates of abortion rights avoiding the supreme court since the 2000 case that tom mentioned because they were spooked by the fact that justice kennedy upheld the federal ban on so-called partial birth abortion. now the situation in the states so dire for access to abortion they re left with little choice

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