principle if there is not been an vacation. in a summit by french president macron in a two-hour talk with putin on sunday. the white house stresses there s no plan or schedule for a summit which would be arranged by secretary blinken and russia s foreign minister lavrov in geneva on thursday, and that meeting is also contingent on their not having any kind of invasion. it would not take place if russia crosses into ukraine. so joining us now. new york times diplomatic correspondent, michael crowley, and retired four star general, barry mccaffrey. president biden says russia is going to invade ukraine but the u.s. is open to diplomacy. is there a disconnect here? do you think a biden putin meeting is even in the cards given what s happening on the ground and all the intelligence? sure doesn t look that way, andrea. white house officials are also not optimistic that this is happening. they re telling the times today and overnight that they re seeing no indication of a change of th
my opinion for the last two or three years has been let them figure it out for themselves, push them out of iraq back into syria, and we should not pick a side in syria, because frankly, i don t think we know they re all bad. there s no good side. if you take out a side, what are you going to do, open the door for isis or the free syrian army. who are they? i m not even sure. knock down one of their planes and you ve picked a bigger fight than you re looking for. we were already in this fight. this is the problem. at a certain point, there is going to be some kind of interfacing between either the americans or the turkish. they have every right if russia crosses over their space into nato to invoke number 5 and say, okay, we re all in it. this reminds me of top gun. turkey is not going to shoot down a russian fighter, nor are we. the f-16s just intercepted
reporter: harris, russia was condemned for the moves in crimea ahead of the sunday referundum. it was veto ed by russian as expected. there are reports of more russian troops in ukraine and if so. that would intensify the croisis. if russia crosses over to southern ukraine that is an escalation at the time the world came together absent russia and said respect territorial integrity and the aspiration of ukranian people and international law for something additional and more escanulatory to occur will be flying in the face of everything you heard here today.