principle if there is not been an vacation. in a summit by french president macron in a two-hour talk with putin on sunday. the white house stresses there's no plan or schedule for a summit which would be arranged by secretary blinken and russia's foreign minister lavrov in geneva on thursday, and that meeting is also contingent on their not having any kind of invasion. it would not take place if russia crosses into ukraine. so joining us now. "new york times" diplomatic correspondent, michael crowley, and retired four star general, barry mccaffrey. president biden says russia is going to invade ukraine but the u.s. is open to diplomacy. is there a disconnect here? do you think a biden putin meeting is even in the cards given what's happening on the ground and all the intelligence? >> sure doesn't look that way, andrea. white house officials are also not optimistic that this is happening. they're telling the "times" today and overnight that they're seeing no indication of a change of their assessment that russia