find out what the truth is. so, i hope that they go after this, not with a preordained approach. i think what they have done all along is they have followed the facts very carefully. and they have gone wherever they let. now, they know exactly what was going on in that day. they will find out of that conflicts or corroborates earlier witnesses. and a bigger more truthful picture of that they will emerge. as they comb through all of this data, all this information they re getting off these phones, yamiche, for the members of the secret service be in trouble here? i mean, that s the big question, stephanie. think about the fact that we are still, i think, processing cassidy hutchinson s statement, her blockbuster surprise hearing. where she said the former president of the united states got into a physical altercation with a secret service agent. now, there are people in trump s camp and others who are pushing back on that. but there has not been someone on the record to say that is
his golf course in virginia on monday. he is not huddle up in an office with his lawyers. there he was on a golf course, with presumably his homeboys. yet, no one seems to be playing golf. when you think about when you see this pick? you know, i think of a meeting outside the bada bing club myself. that is a sopranos reference, that is the fictional strip club in new jersey, from the television show the sopranos. and not only are they not playing golf it was reported that they did not even have their golf clubs in the cart. so, what were they doing, we are left to speculate. what you can t help to think is that they are getting together at a place where nobody can hear the. what they were talking about, maybe we will know someday if and these gentlemen to choose to share information with law enforcement. gophers may have learned a lot that. afternoon yamiche alcindor, joyce vance, glenn kirschner, bringing us the bada bing club
and increase the chances that donald trump will be the next president. it is a complete collapse of the party. there is no moral structure to the party. there is no one there, except for a couple of people like liz cheney, who they trumped cheney out of the party. and i think we have to consider the greatest threat to democracy since 1860. well, stuart, you can only understand where we are headed if you can explain where we got here. how did we get here in terms of the gop? listen, you know, stephanie, there are a lot of people who are wrong about donald trump in 2016. but it s harder to find anyone more wrong than me. i did not think he had when the primary, i did not think he d win the general. and when he did, i had asked myself a lot of tough questions. how is it that i did not see this? and there is sort of a trove of books that people write about washington, if only they could listen to me. i can write that book, because they did listen to me. i helped elect a lot of these
conspiratorial, non governing, xenophobic, of all generations. and i think a lot of us, who work particularly for george w. bush, and the idea of compassionate conservative-ism, we assume we are the dominant team. that for no other reason other than political necessity, because the constitution was changing so much, that we saw this dark side. and we probably plate that darkside too much. i have said, you know, i was the guy who try to elect people. i was good at it. i thought a lot more about winning elections then saving the country. and i regret that deeply. and i do not know what to do about it now, except to sound this alarm and to try and go out. it s what we are doing with the lincoln project, and use the skills we have to try to make it clear what the choice is here. and, you know, it is the inability to imagine democracy ending that is always the key element when democracy is sliding into autocracy. and these people think they are going to win. we look at someone, you know, li
president trump was being told he could not go to the capitol, or telling supporters to go there, and then of course all this back and forth about what was the role of law enforcement. there are a lot of people, frankly, who i talk to, especially civil rights leaders, because i covered a lot of black red black lives matter protesters, there is sort of more force being used on grandmothers who were peacefully protesting police brutality by these protesters. so, there are a lot of questions in their mind about the role of secret service, the rule of law enforcement. but that s not saying that people were not serving honorably, we know a lot of these capitol police officers are traumatized. and affecting their lives because of the trauma. but the real question about what is going on there. and as someone who has now watched [inaudible] all eight happen, the committee does have the work cut out for it and. that is to make this high-level new information hearing. because while it is still