i ll tell you this, that rudy is looking to also find out where the phony witch hunt started, how it started reporter: tonight in a letter to the justice department, democrats demanding a review to see if the actions of rudy uliani with ukraine broke federal law. giuliani is negotiating apparently on behalf of the president of the united states, but in effect, potentially betraying our national and security interests. t a senior administration official telling nbc news, giuliani s assertion that the state department asked for his assistance is false. lester all right kristen welker tonight, thank you. let s bring in chuck todd now in washington and andrea mitchell in new york to talk more about this andrea, you ve covered seven presidentshe cversation. what stood out to you? what is surprising to a lot of people whom i ve talked to, former officials, some current
suggesting he already knew what was in the white house account between the phone call of the president and the leader of ukraine before it was made public mr. mayor, can i ask you, did you read the transcript? like i say, it was read to me. it was read to you, the whole thing? i hope. reporter: giuliani, the president s personal attorney, figures prominently in that conversation. he was first brought up by president zelensky, saying, we are hoping very much that mr. giuliani will be able to travel to ukraine the president saying, if you could speak to him, that would be great later bringing up the idea of investigating joe biden and his son. the washington post citing current and former u.s. officials of a month-long fight inside administration that sidelined national security officials and empowered loyalest including giuliani today nbc s hallie jackson with the president. why do you think it s appropriate for your personal attorney to get involved in government business