conservative estimate and these you d have to ask rudy. are four officials that we know i just don t know. of that we have been able to one possible problem for the identify and there may be more, president, all of the photos like this, president trump with one of the men after dinner at and yeah. one of the important things in the white house back in may. another one from july of last our story is that some of these officials were going to lawyers year with the other giuliani associate and another one, inside the white house with here s both of them with trump, their concerns even before the call because of all of the stuff giuliani and vice president mike they saw happening and would pence. evan peres is out front tonight. include the removal of a u.n. how closer these men who are now arrested, right, for for alleged crimes to giuliani? ambassador and rudy giuliani and how closer they to giuliani? they re very close. planning trips to didkiev and or giuliani has referred to the
and saw what happened should be allowed to testify. stories leak the one with mr. giuliani today only underscore how shady he was dealing with. obviously he does take pictures of people and there were obviously multiple. he says you would have to ask rudy. i just don t know. do you believe him? we ve seen denials like that over stormy daniels where the president has flat-out saying something it s not true. it s possible. presidents do take a lot of people, but not many people give $325,000 to the super pac and not a lot of people pump that kind of money illegally into a campaign. that s true. when you meet with those people they re different kinds of meetings and i don t know what is true or not, but what i can tell you is these people were breaking american laws. they should not have been involved in our politics. they pumped millions of dollars or hundreds of thousands into
testifying before the congress briefly talking with reporters. because he knows the truth. i asked him, did he know these two individuals tied to roouudy we should get the truth. obviously, he stopped sondland. you want the ambassador that was giuliani. he raises his money $64 at a removed so suddenly and because time. of allegations that she was so the campaign also trything, anti-trump or whatever it was. ambassador ivanovich, she obviously could be very important to all of this as well. she s supposed to be testifying. i ll be in washington. is she going to be there? i certainly hope so. i hope she follows the lead of ambassador volker. it wouldn t surprise me if they tried to stop her. she s still an employee of the state department. they need to instruct her and they haven t done that yet, but look, we know that they are look, everybody in this white house right now is either trying to clean it up or cover it up, but there are some people who want to get to the packs
rudy now. it certainly sounds like that, john, and look, the two that were arrested today, associates of giuliani were helping him to dig up bidens in ukraine and pushing for the u.s. ambassador for ukraine to be kicked out. she eventually was and today officials said, look, their arrests are not the end of this. what they said rudy giuliani could be very ominous. here they are. we will not hesitate to investigate and prosecute those who engage in criminal conduct that draws into question the integrity of our political process, and i want to add that this investigation is continuing. should giuliani be concerned that he may be next, john? i think he certainly should be. a couple of reasons, one, it s very unusual for the southern district to come out and make these kinds of announcements. they did it with michael cohen. they did it with jeffrey episteiepstein