they will be close to the national average. if the national numbers stay close, the swing states will stay close. if i was romney campaign the one i would be worrying about still is ohio because that s a state where president obama is still outperforming his national numbers and ohio could be the device i sieve state once again in the college. patti ann: let s look specifically at president obama s approval rating in the swing states. it is 50/50, right down the middle. it is right down the middle. this is still primarily an election about the incumbent, a referendum on him. last wednesday in the debate, mitt romney presented himself as an acceptable alternative. that is helping his numbers overall but the president is still the defining factor in this race. right now americans are split right down the middle whether they want to keep him or fire him. patti ann: talk about that so-called debate bounce that romney got. looking back historically, when a candidate is perceived to have w
four events could change the course. he apparently squandered the first. that s why there is some concern. i agree the numbers aren t that important. basically, the last 50 years they t average bounce is five points. looks like obama got it. romney got. the bounce today is more afemoral than in the past because of the rapid news cycle. bret: some people say romney got his bounce with the paul ryan pick at the beginning, a separated bounce. all right. like a triple jump. give you that, but it s gone. they had an opportunity in the last night of the convention that ended up as a strange night. issues going large but there is an empathy gap.
zz h zoraida sambolin has the day off. that is awesome. it s caught on camera. i m ashleigh banfield. it s nice to have you with us every morning. it s 5:00 a.m. on the east coast. let s get started with this. go vote for someone else. how about that for a campaign pitch. fighting words for mitt romney after a pretty rough reception at the naacp convention. it was a tough sell to begin with though anyway. governor romney s really trying to convince african-americans that they d be better served with him in the white house than with president obama. president obama has about 95ish percent support among african-americans. he misstepped when he referred to the president s health carrey forms as obama care. i m going to eliminate every non-essential expensive program i can find, that includes obama care, and i m going to work to reform and save yeah, those are the sound of boos. you might say ouch or maybe not. romney is getting beat up by naacp. listen to the president o
of the loopholes like romney got. no more conversion of ordinary income into capital gains. this is not an easy thing, mayor. the idea of tax reform, fundamentally changing. this is where the president s been criticized. why didn t he try to do that. it might be an easier bipartisan thing to fix than some of these other areas. i think the president is looking forward to a bipartisan plan. the problem with the election we re frozen looking at this year and we re not realizing the deep trench ourmy was put in the first place. the first time in the history of humanity we went to two wars without figures out a way to pay for them. a global economy in decline and had to bail out banks and bail out auto industry. there s a tremendous amount of cleanup that we had to do to the economy to get it back on track where we ve had about 20, 25 months of straight economic growth. it s just hard to say we re going to clean up our problem in four years. it s hard to judge somebody on 2012 when we r
that we ve fwot people who are so angry about washington being fundamentally unavailable to govern. i put the chart up of all the big things that have to get decided by the end of the year after the election or we could face another debt debacle. are they serious about this? something is going to have to happen. it s just going to be a question of who has the ability to get it done. so one of the issues is i actually disagree a little bit with mike. i think if, for instance, you had democrats win maybe both the presidency and keep the senate and/or if you have republicans take over everything, then you would have some real movement to do something different. that s the question. if it s a slam dunk election in one way, is there more leverage? that s what you heard from the vice president in my interview a couple weeks ago. if we win we re not negotiating on taxes. totally true. if they win, the democrats run the table. i think rates are going to go up dramatically, particularly