the suffolk people pulled out of those states saying their internals show there is no way that the president can win those states. they re not even going to poll again. you say? look, i think those states all end in the romney column, but i think we ve got a long way to go in the next 27 days. take a look before and after the debate. in florida, before the debate, there were polls, three polls in florida. obama was leading by one, one and three. since the debate, there have been two polls, romney has been leading by three and two. that makes a swing from plus two for obama to plus 2 mav for romney. virginia, same thing. obama up by 2 in two different polls before the debate. after the debate, obama up by 3 in one poll, but romney up by one and three in another poll. north carolina, that state has been trending into the romney camp for months, even real clear politic high school before the debate, romney lead of eight tenths of a percent. there has been one poll in north carolina afte
nevada, colorado, virginia, north carolina, all of these swing states that were close, i think if ryan/romney have a couple more good debates, those all go in the romney column. that was a freudian slip. but at the end of the day, though, the question is committee make up the big difference in ohio? can he make up the big difference in wisconsin? because if he doesn t win ohio, he s got to win wisconsin. the romney people still think he can. after that debate and after barack obama s performance, which was staggeringly bad. all right. no, i mean it. he s right. okay. i m hearing this from democrats. and this broke through. we always hear about how americans aren t paying attention. they re looking at reality shows. this broke through, everybody was talking about it, not just how well romney did but how badly the president performed. well, just as i think it was premature to declare the race over before, i think it s too
identifying and persuading new supporters and getting them out to vote will matter. close contest. look at the map. new hampshire is likely to end up in the romney column. in recent weeks has been moving that direction. now a tossup state. i subject it is going to do a good turn for a neighbor by going for romney. bret: i have 30 seconds left. the impact of this debate here in colorado, karl, then joe, how it affects the electoral map? you know, look, my sense on debates is most of the time, not all the time, the arc of the narrative over the course of the three presidential debates is what matters. that is what happened in 2000. 1984 is perhaps the exception. after the second debate on reagan s famous comment i will not use my opponent s youth and inexperience settled the issue. most of the time people look at the debate and come to make decision at the end of it. who wins each one matters but all of them taken together matters. bret, both sides partisans
are 11 different ways to win out ohio. he doesn t give colorado or new hampshire to romney, which i think are both insurance policies. you can say romney is in danger of losing this and obama is in danger of losing this. it comes down to the last ballot on the last evening of the election. this map gives insurance in the pocket. colorado, new hampshire both are going to end up in romney column. bret: thanks as always to karl and joe. and karl s point at the beginning there about the record polling, polling is only ramping up as we move closer to election day. since we taped this segment earlier in this day, nine new state polls were released. nine of them. all of them went toward president obama but money of them moved a state on the map to another color. karl and joe will be back next monday. no grapevine tonight to bring you more news, including the emotional controversy over the diary of a murdered diplomat. [ male announcer ] you are a business pro.
let s bring in jamal simmons and rick tyler. good to see you, good morning. rick, top republican official tells politico that president obama has more routes to victory. we know pennsylvania seems to be in obama s column. what is the path that you see for mitt romney right now? well, mitt romney has got to continue this trend and continue to make this a referendum on obama. there s a very large anti-obama sentiment out there, but mitt romney has got to convert that sentiment into being pro-romney. where does he focus, rick? does he have to win florida? i think he s got to win florida. he s got to win ohio. indiana, which was an obama state before, has already put away i think north carolina has already put away in the romney column. wisconsin is getting closer because of paul ryan. michigan is ironically very close. so there s lots of ways to get there. but he s got to win florida. he s got to win ohio, in my