we ll see if this one actually does generate an appeals court ruling. but this dispute between the congress and the white house in many different ways is making new law. will this have any bearing over documents that congress is looking for or just testimony? i think that this is basically about appearance, about in-person testimony, not about a subpoena for documents. that s a different question. we just have a few seconds left. is it good political strategy to have don mcgahn come and sit before them even if he doesn t answer any questions? yes, because he is supposed to be complying with a lawful subpoena. i think that the precedent that is set in this moment is that we don t have two coequal branches of government if one can just tell the other one. no. well, that s good point. all right, guy, it s been a rock n roll hour. we ve got the don mcgahn ruling as expected. pete williams, thank you so much for coming back to the camera, pete confess sorry, bret