Hello and welcome to cross talk where all things are considered im Peter Lavelle the primary purpose of history is to understand the past as a guide to understanding the present and future history should not be goodness because a lot of history is painful and so how should we find the right balance is statue side the right hands. Across talking statue side im joined by my guest cleo both dari in new york she is founder of the company there have been salmon which teaches social Emotional Learning in schools as well as diversity and inclusion in companies and government. Agencies and in las vegas because i love pirates he is an assistant professor of africanamerican and African Diaspora studies at the university of nevada las vegas all right rostock rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want right now is appreciate greatly let me go to you in new york how does taking down statues and we can talk about which ones changed the condition of people of color in the United Stat
In the ways memorializing Founding Fathers difference from differs from confederates. President lincolns cottage in washington, d. C. , provided the video. Tonight is not unique in that we will be focusing on preconceptions on memorials, but it is unique in that it is not just a conversation in response to recent events, both the killing of unarmed black citizens by mostly White Police Officers or ex Police Officer as well as the protests across the country and around the world, which have called for both systemic change and a reckoning for the symbols, monuments, memorials and flags of white supremacy. Many of which relate to the civil war era. What makes our conversation tonight also different is that weve already had it. Five years ago, in fact. I want you to all think back to think about where you were in the summer of 2015, vergne and edna you gave us your time back then and you spoke in the rake of the Confederate Flag being taken down following the murder of nine parishioners at
Talk but it is unique in that this is not just a conversation response to recent events, both the killing of unarmed black citizens by mostly White Police Officers or expolice officers, as well as the protests across the country and around the world that have called for systemic change and a reckoning for the monuments memorials and flakes of White Supremacy, many of which relate to the war era what makes our conversation different is we have already had a. Five years ago. I want you to think back to where you were in the some of 2015. Us yournd edna you gave time back then and you spoke in the wake of a flutter at flag intake down at the stake at house a Confederate Flag being taken down at a steakhouse in north carolina. At a state house in north carolina. One of the things you said in 2015 was that you were encouraged by the change in the flag coming down etc. , but you i i think this movement but i am afraid it is not parliament not permanent. Im afraid people thought it was the ri
Throughout the country and the world, people raise questions about the purposes of the leaders who supported or profited from slavery, whether in richmond, boston, or birmingham, monuments and statues have become a flashpoint for the black lives matter movement. Since 2015, ford has held an annual Summer Institute set in myth memory, monument, and that has forced questions of remembrance and memorialization. Each year, we find the spring has brought new and urgent crises that require attention and consideration. This year, more that more than any recent memory, demands that and more. Today, we explore some of these questions with you. I am pleased to welcome dr. Toary green and kevin levin todays cabinet conversation. Both dr. Green and mr. Levin have written extensively on how a wide range of americans commemorate the civil war. Sharingrrently different perspectives on civil war memorials. They have been active in recent debates dr. Green is an associate professor of history and the d
States and does that something is it just a political statement because were in a Great Recession were in a pandemic and working people or people been horrendous lee hit by this and i just have to ponder is statues the 1st thing we should be banking about go ahead. Well sure i mean i think i would defer to the former mayor of my state in new Orleans Mitch landrieu who courageously took down the confederate statutes in new orleans a few years ago and his argument was essentially that you know we are a melting pot as a city and we really celebrate that but we should not force our citizens to look up to have to look up at you know monuments of confederate soldiers whose goal was to uphold slavery and this is a thing certainly a traumatic experience for someone to see and someone especially someone of color will inevitably see that and wonder well am i actually in a place where i belong culturally does this place actually represent my values if its willing to you know have a monument that