well, we re not talking about it. i think if you go back and look at the commission s report, what we were talking about is getting significant dynamic effects by taking away tax credits, lowering the tax rate, and having an economic increase that will actually increase the revenues to the federal government. we re not talking about raising tax rates at all. so if there s a net effect of tax revenue, that would be fine with me. i experienced that during reagan s period in 1986. that may not have sounded like a particularly bold response to you, but for a republican senator, nothing braver has been said on television in this century. senator coburn just said that he s willing to violate a pledge he submitted in 2004 to a man i ve called the most powerful man in america who does not sleep in the white house. meet grover norquist, the president of americans for tax reform, whose mission statement
you can probably even go and find out what room my mother was in when i was born. i don t know why he can t produce that. so i m not i don t know, but it s an issue that looks like he could answer pretty quickly. as it relates to muslim, there are many people that do wonder where he really stands on that. now, he has told me that he is a christian. but the debate comes, what is a christian? for him, going to church means he s a christian. for me, the definition of a christian is whether we have given our life to christ and are following him in faith and we have trusted him as our lord and savior. that s the definition of a christian. so, reverend graham, the president telling you he s a christian isn t good enough for you. i suppose anyone telling you they re a christian is not good enough for you because of the definition that you just laid out there. because you can t look into the person s heart. no, that s not true you don t accept the president as a christian based
but we don t want to use that as a backdoor hidden tax increase, and there ll be an effort in the senate, along with the effort to eliminate that bill, to compensate with lower tax rates overall. so that it s revenue neutral. we should get rid of all annoying tax credits and reduce rates. well, i completely agree with you on your description of the ethanol tax credit, but the idea that, you know, getting rid of it isn t good enough, and if you get rid of it, you then have to i don t want to raise taxes to pay for obama s big government. i get it. don t pretend it s about ethanol, it s about your wanting to pay for obama s big government! no, it s about two things, on my end, it is about ethanol. i agree with you completely, let s get rid of it. but i m happy to say get rid of it period and let the treasury collect the additional revenue. why?! they d just spend it on too much government. spend it on health care for people who need it. grover, we re out of time. grover n
while republican mississippi governor haley barbour announced in a written statement today that he will not be candidate for president next year, nbc s biggest embarrassment, donald trump, did something unprecedented in the history of network television last night. he actually used his nbc entertainment platform to openly solicit support for his campaign for president. everybody s saying i should run for president. let me ask you a question. meat loaf, should i run for president? absolutely. meat loaf, should i run for president? what you just saw was a gross violation of network standards and practices as we have known them throughout most of the history of television. it put an explicit nbc endorsement on a trump campaign
donald trump? well, lawrence, i answer reporters questions like i m answering your questions and maybe you could give me some advice. i would advise you i would advise you, if a reporter asks you, who are you going to support for president, you say, i don t want discuss that. that s how to do it. well, first of all, if he s vetted and he s a nomination for the party, i certainly would be interested in him. there s a long way to go and i haven t endorsed him. and i m not going to endorse any candidate. but i find he s got some interesting things to say, and you have to say to yourself, sometimes, you know, maybe a guy like this is right for our country. we need somebody with a lot of business experience to get us out of the mess that the republicans and the democrats have got us into. so, yes, we need some help, but more importantly, we need god s help in this whole process. we need god to give us a leader who can take this nation and put it back on the road a leader who will