the provision of reproductive health services. are they right or wrong? i think they re wrong. i think today s executive order was a giant step. i look at it, martha, more as a compost on a road map. i think there are more to come. i think it is saying we are changing the direction of government. its attitude towards religion, we are doing a giant u-turn. we will start protecting religious liberty instead of assaulting it. that is what was historic about today. by the way, martha martha: hold that thought, i went to bring on reverend barry lynn, executive director of americans united for separation of church and state. let s pull up this pew poll, it says during political elections, should churches come out in favor of one candidate over another? they say, should not, 66% they should not come out from the pulpit to endorse a candidate. reverend lynn, what are your
you can t cross the line and endorse or oppose candidates for public office. when the president said today, there is no free speech for churches, may be hasn t been enough churches lately. martha: just ten seconds, pastor jeffress. quick answer. i want to remind barry lynn that he sent me a letter 20 years ago threatening my church s tax-exempt status, not because i endorsed a particular candidate, but because they stood against an issue that was a moral issue in our community. government has no business policing speech from the pulpit. mack. that is against the first amendment. you did endorsed candidates. martha: we will leave her there. thank you, gentlemen. still ahead there is a look at the intrepid on the right-hand side of your screen. on the left, there are protesters. the president was speaking just a few minutes. we will take you there live as soon as i get underway. first, susan rice has said that she refuses that testify in front of the senate committee just one d
a conversation. and i think you might be surprised. get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. tonight s question. are you sick of republicans wrapping themselves up in religion? text a for yes, b for no to 67622. you can always go to our blog at ed.msnbc.com. we ll bring you results later on in the show. for me, liberal commentator john fugelsang and reverend barry lynn of americans united for the separation of church and state. gentlemen, great to have you with us tonight. john, you first. what do you think about republicans using the bible to justify food stamp cuts? well, ed, i spent the day at a soup kitchen here in hartford, connecticut, where i m shooting a film with lots of people, men and women of different races and backgrounds, who would love to be working right now and paying taxes and contributing to society. but where are the jobs? and we hear this refrain all of the time from the republicans. they want to equate poor with lazy. that is the crown jewel in
republicans. the worst part about it is the republicans in the house are assuming that the very republicans doing the people s work. as mean as them. yeah, they re assuming they re doing the people s work by doing this. john fugelsang, reverend barry lynn, thank you very much. remember to answer the question on the bottom of the screen at ed show and facebook. we love to know what you think. next story, i have been accused of a rant and a tirade to and against the president of the united states. the man who wrote the book is here. and we re going to go face-to-face and straighten this thing out. stay with us. it s right after the break. unh hey! let s go! [ male announcer ] you can choose to blend in. yeah! yeah! yeah! or you can choose to blend out.
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