high powered rifles from a top the fourth floor of a building. it s just too much. it s too much, and something has to change. that was doctor david bomb, an eye witness in today s mass shooting in highland park, illinois, which left six dead and at least two dozen or more injured. articulating what many of us are feeling today. something has got to change. joining us right now, jim kavanaugh, retired atf special agent, in charge and msnbc terrorism analyst, and carmen best, who served a 28 year career in law enforcement. let s start with you on this, carmen, the latest information that we have, one hour ago, we learned that the person of interest was taken into custody. still staying a person of interest, and as tom in winter was laid out for, us for certain purposes and in the process moving forward before charges, what are your thoughts about where we are at? well, like most of the rest
in my office in dallas, atf used to be down the street from the depository, i ve gone up there many times as a history buff and criminal buff my degree is criminology. i studied that case. oswald left the rifle, his fingerprints were all over it. when this guy left the rifle, that s the first thing i thought of. then usa today reported yesterday that on his wall, he had a picture on his internet feed of something taped on his wall, and it was about lee harvey oswald. a slow moving motorcade or parade in front of him, shooting from an elevated position and leaving the rifle there, maybe he s glorifying that on the internet. that s his mental connection for murder. i ve had another texas thought which is charles whitman. yes. another sniper. also joining us is nbc news
nation needs to have a conversation about these weekly events involving the murder of dozens of people with legally obtained guns. we re also watching the white house. in the next 15 minutes we ll see president biden award the medal of honor to four vietnam veterans including one posthumously. we ll take you there live once it starts. we start with the fourth of july parade shooting in highland park. joining us is nbc s shaquille brewster on the scene, investigative correspondent tom winter and jim cavanaugh, retired atf special agent in charge, now an msnbc terrorism analyst. shaq, talk to me about highland park today, the morning after. it s a crime scene. you still see things left behind. reporter: that s exactly right, andrea. about 24 hours since those first shots rang out in highland park, it s the feeling of anticipation as we wait to get an update from
with his girlfriend annabelle be alive today. it s that personal. it is that immediate. and it is those questions that need to be answered for these families that have lost everything and lost their future. these kids, these babies, may they rest in peace. yasmin vossoughian, coming us live from uvalde, texas, think you very much for that. just heartbreaking report. joining us now, jim cavanaugh, retired atf special agent in charge, and then msnbc terrorism analyst. and frank figliuzzi who served as fbi director of counter intelligence. he s an msnbc national security analyst. jim, you need to explain something to us. this active shooter versus barricaded subject, that s the call of the unseen commander made that caused the delay in police breaching the door. i mean, how big of a mistake
it s that personal. it is that immediate. and it is those questions that need to be answered for these families that have lost everything and lost their future. these kids, these babies, may they rest in peace. yasmin vossoughian, coming us live from uvalde, texas, think you very much for that. just heartbreaking report. joining us now, jim cavanaugh, retired atf special agent in charge, and then msnbc terrorism analyst. and frank figliuzzi who served as fbi director of counter intelligence. he s an msnbc national security analyst. jim, you need to explain something to us. this active shooter versus barricaded subject, that s the call of the unseen commander made that caused the delay in police breaching the door. i mean, how big of a mistake was this?