gets pushed off a cliff. will we see a repeat of that? you better believe you are, jenna. that is one of the things make a lot of hand-wringing republicans very nervous. they don t want to face the assault of democratic ads saying republicans are trying to destroy medicare. nothing could be further from the truth by the way. the thing that destroys medicare if we don t do something about the program. it is scheduled to go bankrupt within the next 10 years. that is just around the corner because the finances of the system are so unstable, jenna. so i actually, i mean as i said, i think this is a pretty gutsy budget to say, look, we ve got to get serious about these programs. so many are going broke like medicare. let s take them on. you better believe those ads are coming, jenna. with poor grandma. she will have to eat alpo because of the cost cuts. we ve seen it all before, right? jenna: we have seen that side of it before. if you look at the white house, what they say is, listen, pa
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is it just an exercise in few tilt? no. it s an exercise in displaying to american voters the kinds of things that will restore prosperity in america, that will take us out of the most predictable crisis in history as the president s chairman of the fiscal commissioner,er skin bowles called t. and it will keep our safety net preserved for the next generation for seniors and low income americans, so this is about taking up the challenge senate hasn t taken up in three years, they haven t had a budget, the president has never incorporated any of the fiscal recommendations in the budgets and as a result we re on a trajectory that s dangerous to americans and we need to change course. jon: some republicans on capitol hill are quoted as saying, and most don t want to be named, but they re quoted as saying this thing gives the president a political target, that reforming medicare, however you do it, becomes a vehicle by which the president can scare seniors.
wasn t he, steve? you see this type of greatness at that time? jenna he worked for my great friend and the guy i miss so much, jack kemp. interesting you should mention that episode of his career i think paul ryan in some ways is the new jack kemp. he is visionary. it will be difficult not just to get the president to sign onto this budget but get some of the republicans who may not want to cut some of these programs to go along with it. it will be a heavy lift to even get this through the house, let alone get the president to sign off on some of these big cuts that he is talking about. jenna: gene sperling, one of the main guys that helped develop the economic policy of the president said in an interview this morning when it came to the medicare part of paul ryan s plan, he said this process risks creating an actual death spiral for basic guaranty of medicare as more people are forced out of the system and those who remain face higher and higher costs. we remember the comercial, gra
spending and skyrocketing deficits. the real question, does any budget stand a chance of passing? steve moore. steve, this is enough of a difference of ideas that maybe this one gets through? jenna, first of all, hats off to paul ryan. this is a guy who i think heroically and taking on these enormous enlightment programs and enormous debt grown by five trillion dollars over the last four years. he is not a popular guy in washington right now because he does want to cut back on some of these sacred cow programs like medicare and medicaid and food stamps. i think almost all americans realize we can t continue on this debt path of bore he aring a trillion 1/2 dollars a year. so he is the first politician in washington in a long time, jenna, i ve been in the city a long time, actually been willing to take the bull by the horns and say look, we have to change and we ve got to radically reform some of these programs and get this debt down. was intern of yours,