spending and skyrocketing deficits. the real question, does any budget stand a chance of passing? steve moore. steve, this is enough of a difference of ideas that maybe this one gets through? >> jenna, first of all, hats off to paul ryan. this is a guy who i think heroically and taking on these enormous enlightment programs and enormous debt grown by five trillion dollars over the last four years. he is not a popular guy in washington right now because he does want to cut back on some of these sacred cow programs like medicare and medicaid and food stamps. i think almost all americans realize we can't continue on this debt path of bore he aring a trillion 1/2 dollars a year. so he is the first politician in washington in a long time, jenna, i've been in the city a long time, actually been willing to take the bull by the horns and say look, we have to change and we've got to radically reform some of these programs and get this debt down. >> was intern of yours,