afterwards, if something worse happens, and there are more classified documents somewhere else, or other facts emerge. and the truth, is once you get a special counsel investigation going, even if the fact pattern makes it look innocuous at the beginning, you don t necessarily know with that special counsel will find. he could find anything. it s a lot of people are now saying that they want to remain reserve judgment until they hear more. so lisa, what are the challenges that the biden legal team has to try to balance compliance with the investigation, and yet still be truthful with the public. we have talked about how it is hard proved to stay quiet, but legally speaking, are they advised to not say anything. it s not something that the lawyers going to tell them? look, i think that a lawyer ordinarily would tell a client, as you and i have discussed before, you don t say anything, but here, not only do they have to balance political considerations against that legal, one but
invalidation. and vr is getting so good that by some point, we may never have to leave the confines of our own bedroom. we can travel. we can go to sports games. we can go to concerts. we can even have sex. and again, we can design exactly what our partner is going to look like. and so, will we ever need to leave the confines of our space? and what does that say, what are the implications on the future of human relationships, when technology literally starts to take on a life of its own. i think, not good. that s my theory. i m not going out on a limb. i think not good. i think it s intriguing, really intriguing, you present so many thought-provoking ideas. but i just think that it s better to interact with humans. but whatever, all reserve judgment until i watch your special, and i watched this is life and the whole series. lisa, it s always great. your specials are so intriguing
content that special master is going to be reviewing, right? yeah, exactly. this is this is a little bit confusing, so i m going to reserve judgment. i know a lot of lawyers have been concerned about this preliminary assessment in terps of why would this go to a special master, especially because donald trump s request was, let s just say, not exactly great lawyering. it was not clear what he wanted. i ll reserve judgment at this stage. if there is some evidence of privileged material, rather than classified, in other words his conversations as president, sort of a privileged conversation, yes, that would not be relevant to espionage or any of the any of the legal claims made against donald trump. so i think we should reserve judgment. i would say it is unusual. i don t think this is great for the united states because they are going to have to make yet another case about, you know, why they re doing this, and
i m going to repent. not for a moment. not for a moment. and a big basic problem here, jim, between the two, the watergate situation and this situation is, i repeat myself. then almost all americans, certainly a vast majority wanted to know the truth. they wanted to know the facts. many skeptical in the beginning that richard nixon had anything to do with this, rightly so perhaps. until the evidence is there, why not, reserve judgment. now one third or more of the american people simply have tuned out the facts. if i tell them the apple falls down because newton s first law of gravity says it will be, and they sit under the apple tree and it falls on their head, they won t believe it. the apple falls sideways because trump said so. i don t know how you solve that problem. if i knew, i would give you an answer. the truth is not partisan but
based upon what transpired here, the president s conduct and all the underlying information is what i said back in september. i think a textbook case of abuse of power by soliciting the interference in a national election and using the power of his office to do that. so i think the predicate for this is pretty clear. we have to examine all the evidence, and i take an oath to do that before the senate. all u.s. senators take that oath. that s part of your job. my question to you, because what you re saying really echoes exactly what we heard yesterday on this program from senator cardin, what sherrod brown told jake tapper offer the weekend. reserve judgment. hear all the evidence of the president. some of your fellow senators, including kamala harris and senator warren said back in october that they would vote to convict the president. is that a mistake to pre judge? look, every center has to