statements. this is a state which exists and runs on terror, entrance on terror, its runs on torture, trends in imprisonment, and it runs on ensuring that the people who live there are active back end women of the regime. it is indeed a prison camp.yo you are correct. tucker: supply the impulse you ve watched the reaction of the international left to a lot of these regimes over the years. why the impulse to defend, to side with, make excuses for regimes that are indefensible simply because they hate the west? there is an extraordinary romance of the left believes them. his story to the idea that we can convert these people someho somehow. it goes on the line that we have something in common with them. youu are right to highlight that the factof that the u.s. is free from the chief end of a newly if these regimes is something that appeals to the left, as well. take these things together.
you look at these together, and you realize that you get a complete opposite to whatt would happen if it was a right-wing regime. if that were the case, the left would be first thing we must announce them, ignore them. when it comes to someone who is purportedly anti-american, they have a very different view. tucker: it is strange, though. if you live in the west, in the u.k., our united states, and enjoy the fruits of the society, why devote your life to destroying it? only the west does not, right? absolutely. here you come toel the crux of e matter, which is, why is it that members of our society, who have so many freedoms, will go out onto a limb to defend dictators, repressive regimes, who prevent their citizens from doing it. extraordinary. what you should be seen, were true liberals should be doing, is arguing for the inhabitants of those countries or subjected to human rights abuses. getting them the same rights
the stockpiling, destruction of the digital trail, the audit trail, and frankly, the announcement of all these things may actually keep cooperators to destroy other thing that might provide the trail to them. so the strategy, the strategic effort that is made in these investigations and how much is said and not said can really make a difference in terms of whether or not you can stop the next one. you know, i wanted to get your thoughts on she is the l.a. director of the council on american islamic relations and he spoke to cnn that we re, the united states, is partly responsible. i want you to react to this. some of our own foreign policy as americans, as the west, have fueled that extremism. when we support cruel leaders in egypt or other placing are support dictatorships, repressive regimes that push people over to the edge, then they became extremists and become terrorists women are part
millions live in poverty and desperate hunger. that really was extraordinary, jose. i never thought that i would come back to beijing and think i ve come back to a city where there is a degree of freedom. perhaps that shows you the distance between pyongyang and this, the capital of china. you just said a ton right there, bill. tell me what it s like to be in that country that rarely lets people like you in there. what was it like? what did you sense, what did you smell, what did you feel when you were able to walk through there? reporter: well, it really was extraordinary, jose. i mean i ve been in lots of repressive regimes, iran, iraq, libya, syria, and even the old soviet union before it fell. but north korea does really top them all. it is a totalitarian state, a big brother style state where you are watched all the time, where you don t question the
also working for. and, on top of that the state department, in official government business that uma abidine was doing while being paid by us, by the taxpayers and while hillary clinton was secretary of state. i think what we need to highlight here, i read that email. i saw that where it shows uma abidine, don t forget, hillary clinton s aid, while at the state department, asking for the state department to agree to accept money from congo in north korea to, as you point out. repressive regimes that go into the clinton foundation. the question is how much more money that didn t have to go through to get approved by the state department came in from other repressive governments that went directly into the clinton foundation? how much of that foundation is from repressive regimes and what are they asking for? we don t know and you are right to point that out. the reason we are getting a snapshot of some emails is that a conservative, we should point out conservative activist david