forth with him others as well on the nsa surveillance program, even as he wants to focus on the economy, there are nagging issues like iran, syria, big humanitarian crisis, and these nsa surveillance programs which he is still struggling to get his arms around. he promised we had struck the right balance and yet still needs reform because there s a lot of americans who, number one, think these programs need to be reined in, and wonder about the statements the president has made that have not come true. we have the back and forth on that. let s listen. i have confidence in the fact that the nsa is not engaging in domestic surveillance or snooping around, but i also recognize that technologies change and people can start running algorithms and programs to map out all the information that we re downloading on a
smithsonian. that band here to perform this hour. float the pictures. fox & friends final hour starts now. hi, this is tony danza. you re watching fox & friends. merry christmas and a happy new year. thank you, anthony. it s the 8:00 o clock hour of a monday morning. that means we turn now to our friend in television, bret baier live from washington. hello, bret. good morning. getting ready for christmas? yeah, we re not lassoing mechanical bulls in washington. oh, believe me, pal, there is a lot of bull down there! have you been watching? that needs to be reined in. i didn t lasso anything here. although i ll tell you, you came up over the weekend because in naples, they love you in naples, florida. you dominate the region. that is a great place. home away from home. right. they re wearing shorts right now. it s the bret baier factor. so let s talk about this.
collection which she briefly supported now has to be reexamined and basically the nsa has to be reined in. do you agree with that? i do think the metadata program has to be reexamined. this is something i raised years before it became public. i don t see the government has to require this data. i don t know why we can t go to telecommunications providers when we have reason to believe a number is connected with a terrorist plot. there s been a lot of talk about we need the haystack to look for the needle. we don t need that. the telecommunicating companies can hold onto the haystack. i believe in its current form it should end and be restructured. we can get the information to protect the country we need to without a wealth of data. they should meet three tests, constitutional, effective and structured in a way to minimize any unnecessary intrusion on privacy.
2012 primaries when we had those spirited debates. to hear this on capitol hill which ordinarily is always pegged off the record, and this time around sort of no we re more than happy to say it not only do we want to say it we want the message to resonate with republicans around the country that these guys are so far out on a limb and so self-destructive to the party they need to be reined in. i posed the question you could have a rand paul drone style filibuster for fund the government. he said yes to use any procedural tools necessary. mike lee said it s not good a idea to have a shutdown. from house republicans identify spoken to they want ted cruz to put his money where his mouth is. we want to you extend this as long as you can. don t be surprised to see some
that we have been able to instrument because of these kind of programs. so they need to be reined in, but these folks making these commentary from the cheap seats should put a bill on the floor. carly fiorina, you know, i think it s important because what congress has failed to do is actually have the gut to have a debate. if you want to debate these things, then don t pass the patriot act in perpetuity. don t give the president authority to wage a military campaign without coming back and saying, hey, maybe we ought to review this. but mike, who ran the nsa, was on last week, and he made the point these programs cannot operate in the dark. they have to be politically sustainable. here s what he said last week. i think it s living in this kind of a democracy we re going to have to be a little bit less effective in order to be a little more transparent to get to do anything to defend the american people. your thoughts. well, mike hayden was a great nsa leader and he s a great fr