The regular meeting of the San Francisco Ethics Commission and well begin by taking roll. Commissioner studley . Here. Commissioner liu . Commissioner renee . Present. All members of the commission being present, lets start with the agenda. Public comment on matters appearing or not appearing on the agenda that are within the jurisdiction of the Ethics Commission. good evening dale pillpa, just wanted to comment and perhaps inquire on the election season that has just concluded. I assume that the staff will be analyzing the effectiveness of the matching the Public Finance program and perhaps compiling a report and im just wondering what the thinking is on the timing for that . Its usually a few months down the road, but given the various things that happened this cycle, i believe it will be interesting to look at the numbers after the fact and maybe we can have some discussion at that time about the program and how it works given what we anticipated about a yearago going into this cycl
Turned over. With respect to the two different standards voting whether its three commissioners vote and that there is no violation or vote there is a fining of a violation, that has to do with the burden of proof, because in a showcause hearing that the respondent bears the burden of finding that there is no violation, we, the commission, will be voting on whether he has met that burden of showing that there is no violation. And that is what requires the threevote majority. On the flipside, when were handling something pursuant to chapter 3, we are voting to determine if there was a violation and therefore we need a majority vote for that. So that is why my understanding that we have those two different standards in terms of whether its three commissions voting for or three commissioners voting against. Were there any comments from the public that caused the commissioners to have additional questions or comments about how things should be addressed . Is there a motion to adopt Decisio
We have already eliminated the financial penalty, but im just struggling to find that here. Thanks. There were some good points raised. With respect to enforcement, i think it gives us some enforcement authority. Exactly what kind i agree is ambiguous. I think if it means anything it has to mean the ability to actually enforce. And demand that the records be turned over. With respect to the two different standards voting whether its three commissioners vote and that there is no violation or vote there is a fining of a violation, that has to do with the burden of proof, because in a showcause hearing that the respondent bears the burden of finding that there is no violation, we, the commission, will be voting on whether he has met that burden of showing that there is no violation. And that is what requires the threevote majority. On the flipside, when were handling something pursuant to chapter 3, we are voting to determine if there was a violation and therefore we need a majority vote
Generally have a good time. Whether it is awkward camp or junior guard. From more information, visit [ gavel ] good evening and welcome to the regular meeting of the San Francisco Ethics Commission and well begin by taking roll. Commissioner studley . Here. Commissioner liu . Commissioner renee . Present. All members of the commission being present, lets start with the agenda. Public comment on matters appearing or not appearing on the agenda that are within the jurisdiction of the Ethics Commission. good evening dale pillpa, just wanted to comment and perhaps inquire on the election season that has just concluded. I assume that the staff will be analyzing the effectiveness of the matching the Public Finance program and perhaps compiling a report and im just wondering what the thinking is on the timing for that . Its usually a few months down the road, but given the various things that happened this cycle, i believe it will be interesting to look at the numbers after the fact and maybe
Would actually have the power under the charter or the ordinance to so order. I get you that make a finding and post it on the website and send it to whoever you want, send warning letters and all of that. Its just the power to order a respondent to cease and desist a violation or produce the record, im not sure im finding that explicitly in the ordinance or in the charter. And so im just trying to figure out where we grab that power from. We have already eliminated the financial penalty, but im just struggling to find that here. Thanks. There were some good points raised. With respect to enforcement, i think it gives us some enforcement authority. Exactly what kind i agree is ambiguous. I think if it means anything it has to mean the ability to actually enforce. And demand that the records be turned over. With respect to the two different standards voting whether its three commissioners vote and that there is no violation or vote there is a fining of a violation, that has to do with t