their families and may god protect our first responders and i ll take a couple questions right now. what were you told about the likelihood you said hope springs eternal that somebody will be able to be pulled out alive? what were you able to con videotape to the families? look, first of all if the families are realistic. they know the longer it goes and one of the things that the local fema personnel as well as the local first responders did is they took all of the families to the site to see what it looked like. they re all realists. they see cement upon cement upon cement.
senator from louisiana on national television with chris wallace saying, well, maybe ukraine did meddle. you don t know that and i don t know that. the intelligence agency said we do know that. dr. fiona hill testified it was russia. what do you do with the united states senate that s prepared to go along for the ride with president trump? i remember in 1998 during my first impeachment rodeo then congressman lindsey graham saying the house of representatives is going to make a judgment and we hope that the senate, you know, has the fortitude and wisdom to rise to the occasion. obviously as political realists we know we re not going to get 67 republican senators. what i m asking for is four republican senators. what i m asking for say 51-49 vote majority saying this president does not deserve to remain in office. i think that will also send a powerful signal for the 2020 election. what are your hopes for those four senators? you think you might peel off mitt romney, susan collins, d
i don t question pete s courage. in fact, i think he s an amazing guy. but i do question his political courage. when he talks about being constrained or govern the by those polls, when what is right is to year and obvious before us. and when there are inspiring young leaders like march for our lives, who have survived this, who understand it, and who have laid out a peace plan that makes so much sense. and when americans hear it, they get behind it. i think, again, leadership and courage in the political arena is doing the right thing and saying the right thing regardless of the polling consequences to that. all right, great to have you here. really appreciate it. gracias. thank you congressman. thank you, chris hayes in the spin room. karine jean-pierre, whose services we lose at the end of this hour, the realists watching at home are going to say things like, with what congress? so this is the tough part with beto o rourke. we have to remember this summer in his state, he s
in fact, i think he s an amazing guy. but i do question his political courage. when he talks about being constrained or governed by those polls. when what is right is so clear and obvious before us. and when there are inspiring young leaders like march for our lives who have survived this, who understand it, and who ve laid out a peace plan that makes so much sense. and when americans hear it they get behind it. so i think, again, leadership and courage in the political arena is doing the right thing and saying the right thing regardless of the polling consequences to that. all right. former congressman beto o rourke of el paso, texas. great to have you here. really appreciate it. gracias. thank you, congressman. thank you, chris hayes in the spin room. careen jean-pierre whose services we lose at the end of this hour, the realists watching at home are going to say things like with what congress? so this is the tough part with beto o rourke. we have to remember this summer in h
misfortune with fortitude and buoyancy as long as they re convinced that those who are in charge of their affairs are not deceiving them or are not themselves dwelling in a fool s paradise. it s a two-prong test, don t lie to us. don t lie to yourself. donald trump fails both those tests. and jimmy carter, going back to jimmy carter, richard haass, turned 95 years old yesterday, asked what he was proudest of, his greatest achievement, he said that i told the truth to the american people. how important is that? not being moralistic here, let s just be hard realists. how important is that that when our secretary of state talks, foreign leaders know they can take him or her at their words. when our commander in chief talks, foreign leaders know they re telling the truth. how important is that, and perhaps is that truth telling by