political mainstream who aided and abetted the bundys and people like them. the governor of nevada. the congressman that came out and said bundy s a great guy fighting to defend the constitution. that was never true. but these politicians were perfectly willing to pander to the right wing elements of the base and they were sorry in the end. mark, i appreciate you being on. mark potok and arno mckayless, thanks so much. the shooter last week in seattle, says he heard voices in his head and to many, many others who never hurt anyone and remarkable researcher who you meet after the break. she is living with the voices for much of her life with schizophrenia and designed an exercise in empathy and i recently tried. just go here. the challenge then 45 minutes trying to think, talk and deal with others while hearing voices in your head. the results of my interview with
killers like these because we feel it s more important that the history and we remember the names and lives of the victims and survivors. however, in this case, it s important to understand the perpetrators. police are looking for what drove them. with that in mind, the breaking news videotape of the husband at the recent government standoff with rancher bundy voicing his views and a warning. i feel sorry for any federal agent that is want to come in here and try to push us around or anything like that. i really don t want violence toward them but if they re going to come, bring violence to us, well, if that s the language they want to speak, we ll learn it. the son said they were asked to leave because of the radical beliefs. today authorities revealed minute by minute details of their rampage. we ll have more on that. i have five deaths on my shoulders. i should have called the cops. reporter: but kelly fielder
prove this definitively, it seems very likely that the millers felt that the war had begun, the first battle had been a great and successful one. and now was the time to strike. you know, it really is remarkable that they re now these reports of them talking about taking over a courthouse and so on because we did see that very same situation in atlanta on friday of last week, when another gunman, also from the patriot movement apparently tried to do the very same thing. arno, do you agree with what mark is saying is anti-government rhetoric of bundy and his supporters and what they promoted was an essential ingredient in this attack? yeah. absolutely. basically what we re talking about is cultivation of fear. you need to have an environment of constant fear to drive people to the point where they commit an atrocity like what happened in las vegas or like what happened in oak creek, wisconsin, august 5th, 2012. if you look at any mass shooting, in any kind of
bundies or the militia movement but it is the politicians in the political main stream who aided and abetted the bundys and people like them. the governor of nevada. the congressman that came out and said bundy s a great guy fighting to defend the constitution. that was never true. but these politicians were perfectly willing to pander to the right wing elements of the base and they were sorry in the end. mark, i appreciate you being on. mark potok and arno mckayless, thanks so much. the killing seems primarily driven like ideology. the shooter last week in seattle, says he heard voices in his head and to many, many others who never hurt anyone and remarkable researcher who you meet after the break. she is living with the voices for much of her life with schizophrenia and designed an exercise in empathy and i recently tried. just go here. the challenge, spend 45
important to to cans on the perpetrators. police are looking for what drove them. with that in mind, the breaking news videotape of the husband at the recent government standoff with rancher bundy voicing his views and a warning. i feel sorry for any federal agent that is want to come in here and try to push us around or anything like that. i really don t want violence toward them but if they re going to come, bring violence to us, well, if that s the language they want to speak, we eastern learn it. the son said they were asked to leave because of the radical beliefs. today officials released minute by minute details of the rampage. k you ang lah has that. i have five deaths on my shoulders. i should have called the cops. reporter: the kelly fielder didn t. the couple had been living with her for the last two weeks saying they were preparing for