woman committing a serious assault, a rapist, and a killer. they re about to hit the street. a court ruling in a 6-3 vote that pardons may not be set aside by the judicial branch and the final decision rested entirely with the governor, but it s entirely the governor s judgment that the victim victim families are questioning. b b barbou rr wouldn t come on the show. governor, ed lavendera with cnn, can we talk to you real quick? let me get my instructions. can you talk to us in a second? he couldn t give us a second and walked right inside the building, but not before showing us what he thought of the questions. can you talk to us about the char charges? we ll wait for you out here, then. told me to stay where i m cold. can we get a few minutes to talk about the pardon? when the supreme court rules it will be time to talk. i m not so presumptuous as to predict what the supreme court is going do. the supreme court ruled so we contacted mr. barbour s office to s
killers who had worked as servants in the governor s mansion. those killers were already free when the state s attorney general moved to block the pardons. but five other serious felons were still in prison. from left to right, a drug dealer, a woman convicted of serious assault, a rapist, not shown here, an accessory to murder, and a convicted killer. they re about to hit the street. now, the court ruling in a 6-3 vote that pardons may not be set aside by the judicial branch and that the final decision on pardons rested entirely with the governor. but it s primarily the governor s judgment that victims families and survivors were questioning. governor barbour, you ll remember, refused to come on the program to defend his decision. his people said no over and over again, by e-mail and on the phone, face-to-face when we asked our ed lavendera to try to get some answers from the governor. governor, ed lavendera from cnn. do you mind if we talk to you real quick? let me get
that pardons may not be set aside by the judicial branch and the final decision rested entirely with the governor, but it s entirely the governor s judgment that the victims families are questioning. barbou rr wouldn t come on the show. governor, ed lavendera with cnn, can we talk to you real quick? let me get my instructions. can you talk to us in a second? he couldn t give us a second and walked right inside the building, but not before showing us what he thought of the questions. can you talk to us about the charges? we ll wait for you out here, then. told me to stay where i m cold. can we get a few minutes to talk about the pardon? when the supreme court rules it will be time to talk. i m not so presumptuous as to predict what the supreme court is going do. the supreme court ruled so we contacted mr. barbour s office to see if he would make good on his promise to talk, and his press officer said no, he s traveling, busy. we asked for a phone interview. sh
people who are not technically lobbyists but consultants and partners in law firms and rainmakers. jack, the system is pretty corrupt. horrible. mike: are there people in high places of power now that are as corrupt as you turned out to be? well,. mike: and that is a blunt question but i mean i think that the problem is not those that are crossing these murky lines in the sand like i did because frankly you will find a small percentage of people who push that envelope so far that they feel they have to even cross that line. the problem is where the line is. the problem is what is illegal. and while people would be engaged in things that are not illegal and they are not breaking the law as we look at them a american citizens from the outside we are aghast that this is illegal and that is rife in the system. mike: some of the thing for which you got in trouble clearly crossed a legal line but if we examine the ethical
people who are not technically lobbyists but consultants and partners in law firms and rainmakers. jack, the system is pretty corrupt. horrible. mike: are there people in high places of power now that are as corrupt as you turned out to be? well,. mike: and that is a blunt question but i mean i think that the problem is not those that are crossing these murky lines in the sand like i did because frankly you will find a small percentage of people who push that envelope so far that they feel they have to even cross that line. the problem is where the line is. the problem is what is illegal. and while people would be engaged in things that are not illegal and they are not breaking the law as we look at them as american citizens from the outside we are aghast that this is illegal and that is rife in the system. mike: some of the thing for which you got in trouble clearly crossed a legal line