so the turn is made. so having said the turn is made, that s the report we re getting, what would the tower say when they make a turn that has not been ok d like that? any time someone deviating from their course, it wouldn t be the tower. it would be the radar controller would then question why you made the turn, because the controller is responsible for keeping that airplane away from other airplanes. why don t we get that? phil, why don t we get that? i have no idea. that s the $64,000 question. we should have had the national transportation safety board and the f.b.i. in here from day one with access to all the information. every single bit of it because what we re having right now is dribs and drabs of little pieces coming out, often inconsistentents. it s really frustrating the search efforts. i got a ton of questions for you. so phil and john, we re going to ask you to stick around for the rest of the show because things are breaking during our show. if you have a ques
they turn out over the water, once you get 200 to 300 miles offshore, there is no radar. airplanes are not typically under radar control once they are out 200 or 300 miles over the ocean. that radar starts jent generally within 200 or 300 miles of reaching land. at that point the land based radar picks up up. once you are out over the water there is no radar. typically any radar system is as good as the equipment, which many times in these countries equipment is not as sophisticated as it is in the united states. and the radar controller. and any land based radar has blackout spots behind mountains, behind hills that the radar would not paint. i mean, in listening to you, jesse, you have got to get lucky that you can get those blackout spots so you can be a certain distance, some level of skill and knowledge in order accomplish it. can t blindly fly and hope
to the side. how did he do that? two flight instructors were called to give the passenger impromptu lessons on how to fly and how to stay cool under pressure. one of those instructors, roy, is joining us now from england. good to have you on the phone with us. this is unbelievable. how were you able to do something like this, helping someone land a plane for the first time in the dark in. well, good morning. yes, it was quite difficult at the time. we had poor john had a very lot of things against him at the time because it was getting dusk. getting dark. we didn t know how much fuel was on board. because although i ve flown a cessna 172 hundreds of tiles, they re all a little bit different and john didn t know where the switches were for the lights, cockpit lights and things like that. he didn t want him to start looking round the cockpit and lose concentration on flying the airplane. so together with myself and the radar controller, he did a
they turn out over the water, once you get 200 to 300 miles offshore, there is no radar. airplanes are not typically under radar control once they are out 200 or 300 miles over the ocean. that radar starts jent generally within 200 or 300 miles of reaching land. at that point the land based radar picks up up. once you are out over the water there is no radar. typically any radar system is as good as the equipment, which many times in these countries equipment is not as sophisticated as it is in the united states. and the radar controller. and any land based radar has blackout spots behind mountains, behind hills that the radar would not paint. i mean, in listening to you, jesse, you have got to get lucky that you can get those blackout spots so you can be a certain distance, some level of skill and knowledge in order accomplish it. can t blindly fly and hope for the best.