one thing ambassador sondland said was a confirm example of quid pro quo is the white house communicated to ukrainian president zelensky's administration that unless he announced he was investigating some of the president's political rivals, he wouldn't be able to have a meeting at the white house with president trump. a lot of the conversation about potential bribery attempts or quid pro quos has focused on the dollar figure of the military aid to the ukrainians, but at that point over the summer it was important to kiev that zelensky get a meeting in the white house with trump. i think we might be underestimating the extent to which securing a meeting was front of mind for zelensky's administration. and sondland now says that particular item they really, really wanted the president withheld explicitly because he wanted them to investigate the biden family. >> congressman schiff invoked a very interesting line from sondland's opening testimony and