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It means is that this proposal might as well be dead in the water. Because the president has said shes not going to waive the 30 day rule less we work something out and were not going to work something out if it means taking of the public defenders. Sadly, as we are doing this in San Francisco santa clara, by the way just became the first jurisdiction in the bay area, in the region to unanimously vote the board of supervisors in santa clara to move forward with their efforts to fund universal representation. So kudos to santa clara. Excuse me [inaudible] [off mic] well im not sure exactly what it looks like. What i am asking is given that this proposal wont be heard this year, given that the mayor wont budge the president and waive the 30 day rule im asking for special meeting next week so that we can hear from the relevant agencies, all of the agencies, and i dont want to bei dont delete any out but certainly we want to hear from law enforcement, want to hear from Public Health, want

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