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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20141211:12:01:00

our enemies act without conscience. we must not. oh, my god, uncle johnny? is that you? i ve missed you so much! did the straight talk express just pull into truth town? in the end, torture s failure to serve its intended purpose isn t the main reason to oppose its use. it s about us. it s about who we were, who we are and who we aspire to be. it s about how we represent ourselves to the world. [ laughter ] i didn t think i d ever see you again. like laser discs or myspace, but you re back. don t ever leave me again. oh, my gosh. that was spooky and really funny.

CNN Legal View With Ashleigh Banfield December 9, 2014 17:37:00

need reliable intelligence. torture produces more misleading information than actionable intelligence. now, what the advocates of harsh and cruel interrogation have never established is that we couldn t have gathered as more or reliable intelligence by using human methods. the most important lead we got in the search for bin laden came from using conventional interrogation methods. i think it s an insult to say we can t win the war without these such methods. yes we can and we will. but in the end, torture s failure to serve its intended purpose isn t the main reason to oppose its use. i have often said and will always maintain that this question isn t about our enemies.

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