criminal to testify against other potential persons. they do that all the time. they re used to it. the reality is that these cooperating witness agreements, heavily incentivized, exaggerating the story to impress the government and ultimately implicate others. danny, thank you for that. we appreciate it. let s bring in zelena maxwell, director of progressive programming for sirius xm. joe watkins, form erp white house aide to george bush. welcome to you all three on a saturday morning. rick, with you first here, do you see any sense of what white house insiders are saying about this very sudden and unexpected flynn development. if you were in the west wing, what would you be thinking? it should be very nerve-racking for the white house. he was close to president trump. remember flynn pled guilty to
different conversation about allegations against him. former director of progressive media with hillary clinton, with that campaign. now director of progressive programming at sirius/xm. liz plank, executive producer of fox media s divider of women. she s a bona fide internet sensation. and jessica contreras, a reporter with the washington post. a big thanks to all of you for carving out time on a friday afternoon. should we be talking about bill clinton right now? no, i don t think we should talk about bill clinton. there were plenty of feminists at the time those allegations were happening that we re having this conversation right now, but at the time, we weren t listening to feminists. we thought they were outliars. and the conversation about the cultural shift in terms of the power dynamic and abuses of power, those were conversations that weren t a part of the mainstream. i do think it s important to process sounds like you re bill bill clinton a pass. i m not giving h
she s now the director of progressive programming for sirius xm. joe watkins, republican strategist for president george h.w. bush and rick tyler. cruz campaign spokesman. he is an msnbc political analyst. as always, glad to see all three of you. let s get to this report, guys. you just saw it was about the changing stories about what really happened here. who met with whom? who had contact with russia? who did not have contact? so where do you see this story taking us, joe? well, no place good, of course. just lends itself to the fact that there are more questions about what jeff sessions knew and when he knew it. carter page s revelation this week doesn t help him. certainly papadopoulos as well. papadopoulos is probably the biggest bombshell of all this week. i don t think anybody knew he had already pleaded guilty to misleading the fbi and that he was cooperating with the special prosecutor. those are big bombshells. certainly for jeff sessions,
representatives. i have a great relationship with political people. if you read the papers you think i m like on one island and they re on the other. well, that s not the way it is. just so you understand, the republican party is very, very unified. when we get things approved, we have to go through hell, because we have no democrat support. let s bring in tonight s panel. an msnbc contributor and political reporter with the new york times. and also an adviser on the clinton campaign now the director of progressive programming at sirius xm and also a republican strategist. guys, welcome. there is a trump tweet for absolutely everything. we all know this. yes. here s one for today obama s complaints about republicans stopping his agenda are b.s. since he had full control for two years. he can never take responsibility. i mean, it s almost like you can you can predict the future by going back and looking
as long as they have sincerely held religious or moral objection to doing so. joining me now, director of progressive programming, irin carmon, and anusha hels ann. i ll go around the table and get reactions. it s not exactly a surprise. marco rubio, back in 12, introduced a bill to do exactly what donald trump is doing now, saying that women can t get abortions not abortion, but birth control covered in their health plans. essentially you saw around 2010, a push by state legislatures, republicans pushing back against women s health care. i say health care because birth control is health care. and also they conflate abortion and birth control as if those