different conversation about allegations against him. >> former director of progressive media with hillary clinton, with that campaign. now director of progressive programming at sirius/xm. liz plank, executive producer of fox media's divider of women. she's a bona fide internet sensation. and jessica contreras, a reporter with "the washington post." a big thanks to all of you for carving out time on a friday afternoon. should we be talking about bill clinton right now? >> no, i don't think we should talk about bill clinton. there were plenty of feminists at the time those allegations were happening that we're having this conversation right now, but at the time, we weren't listening to feminists. we thought they were outliars. and the conversation about the cultural shift in terms of the power dynamic and abuses of power, those were conversations that weren't a part of the mainstream. i do think it's important to process -- >> sounds like you're bill bill clinton a pass. >> i'm not giving him a pass. i'm saying the reason we're