it got a prigozhin, the leader of the wacker group, abruptly called off his armed rebellion. mid march to moscow. after agreeing to a mysterious deal reportedly brokered by the president of belarus, alexander lukashenko. prigozhin may have a problem back down for now, but he has exposed some very real cracks in putin s power. it s hard to imagine things going back to where they were. over the next, hour we re going to continue digging into a number of the big questions around the events in russia over the last 48 hours. what is going on in moscow, what does it all mean for putin, ukraine? we re going to start on the ground, joining us live from moscow s kier simmons. i know you ve only been there for a short period of time, here, but what is happening on the ground right now? what are you seeing on the ground around you? i just arrived in moscow, jen, you can see for yourself. behind me. one of the main thoroughfares in moscow, and it looks like ordinary life. you might eve
over that city of rostov, that is a logistics hub for a city of ukraine. that is 1 million people. getting than 145 miles of moscow, that s not a small thing. i do think prigozhin may have wanted to test whether or not there was a collapse of the russian structure, whether or not other leaders, other fiefdoms within the russian kleptocracy that putin set out, people often came with him. that didn t happen. most people say behind putin. i don t necessarily think that the side of putin strength, i think it s a sign that people didn t necessarily want to put jump on the train with prigozhin. therefore, he de-escalated, and took a deal. he took a deal, by the way, that was very different from what putin said on television, we thought this was a mutiny, that production should be detained, he was going to be prosecuted. putting out a climb down as part of this deal, and started prigozhin. i don t think we have the last of him. and i certainly don t think we ve heard the last of potential i
be there for a while. but the game has completely changed, as of yesterday. i want to ask you about prigozhin, because as you mentioned, he s i mean, he s a former convict, he s a former all, gaar corner be current. the notion that he is going to disappear into the sunset and we will never hear from him again in, bellerose terrace me as a true, but what is your sense of this? what are you going to be watching i mean, he s a master propagandist. i wouldn t take any great insurance policies out on the life of yevgeny prigozhin. this is a regime that is perfectly capable of murdering its enemies abroad and at home. we know that over and over again. but the trouble is that, well, putin may be secure in locking up people like a wall street journal reporter or vladimir
much more victorious than he was because by now, it is resolved. prigozhin is not going to go into the sunset, and belarus, africa, in syria, or anywhere else. i was going to ask about prigozhin, and what we expect, it sounds like you think so. to hear from him more. that he s not just disappearing into the sunset. what will that look like? well, i think in some ways, both putin and prigozhin won, but also our weekend. because prigozhin wanted to take because putin was, according to prigozhin, not nationalistic enough. it wasn t the bloodshed that prigozhin was offering. and putin didn t go that direction. but putin also blinked. he allowed prigozhin to go. so both of them didn t know therefore, they decided to go their separate ways. i don t think putin will forgive, because we know he doesn t forgive personal disloyalty. so is not going to forget.
opponent. there are all kinds of clans, as the term goes in moscow. glands, subdivisions of power, rivalries within the fsb, within military intelligence, the mayor of moscow and the prime minister on one side, and all kinds of factions but the mechanisms for coming to power, for succession, are no more orderly than in the television show, succession. the violence could be a great deal worse. he has created a catastrophically disorganized, personalist method of rule, so that he is at the center, ideally, and everyone is playing off each other. he s the referee. but now, his weaknesses are exposed. and people smell it in moscow. prigozhin is somebody who ripped away the veil, and now we all see it. he still may gain power, he may