reputation for being tough on white collar crimes, but it's a possibility that if he is convicted of the counts that he could be sent to prison. this crime could carry up to 40 years of incarceration. it is likely that he would run these concurrently rather than consecutively, but it is a possibility. is also possible that ultimately if he is convicted that he faces probation. right now we don't know and it's something that throughout the course of the evidence and ultimately once a verdict is reached that the judge would be evaluating. >> do you perceive of any judge throwing trump in prison? >> no. there's no chance. and here's why.