washington, we don t have the honestly to talk about these things with real information, real facts, go through that problem solving process, information agree on achievable goals, and then set the strategies and then pass the legislation. look, isn t some of the problem here the rhetoric that gets used? absolutely. i m going to use you as an example here. i m going to play the rhetoric you used during election campaign. here it is. this is our shot. we re not going to be able to repeal obamacare the next time. this is our shot. and yes, you ll bet i ll repeal it in a heartbeat. and this is what you said in january about that rhetoric. it s way more complex than simply repeal and replace. it s a fun little buzzword, but it s not just accurate. during the campaign you used that buzzword and your constituents look at buzzword and say you ve been using repeal
we re learning more about the republican opposition to the gop senate health care bill. this morning on meet the press, for instance, wisconsin senator ron johnson spoke to my colleague chuck todd about his reaction. what i find so disappointing is these bills aren t going to fix the problem. they re not addressing the root cause. they re doing the same old washington thing, throwing more money at the problem and of course, we have all of the inflamed rhetoric. so what i d like to do is slow the process down, get the information and go through the problem solving process and actually reduce these premiums that have been artificially driven up because of obamacare mandates. cnbc contributor ron insana joins us again today. ron, take us through the economic argument against the bill. you heard what the senator said, is he hitting it? he s hitting some of it which
even though you look at this bill and you see a lot of flaws? the reason i left the life i loved in wisconsin was to fix this problem and what i find so disappointing is these bills aren t going to fix the problem. they re doing the same old washington thing throwing more money at the problem and of course we have all the inflamed rhetoric so what i d like to do is throw sloe the process down and get the information and go through the problem solving process and reduce these room premiums that have been driven up because of obamacare mandates so let s fix the problem but in the end i come from a manufacturing base. i ll look at whatever i m forced to vote on and i ll ask myself is this better tomorrow than where we are today? is it continuous improvement. you don t like this process but you re not willing to delay things to force the process to get better? i would like to delay the thing. there s no way we should be voting on this next week.
rhetoric. i would like to slow the process down, get the information, go through the problem solving process, actually reduce premiums that have been artificially driven up because of obamacare mandates. conservative senator joe manchin weighing in on what would kpcompel him to vote in favor of the bill. they need democrats to pass this. if this doesn t have the votes, call off this bill now. has the white house reached out to you in this processor senator mcconnell? not yet, no. some of my colleagues, susan collins and i have been speaking, bill cassie and i spoke about it. i said if you take repeal off the table, talk about repair and fixing what we have, how to make it better, i m in with you. we will get more democrats will sit down. why does it have to be so mean spirited? why can t there be some compassion. president trump slamming democrats all the while expressing confidence the bill will pass. we look forward to continuing
that places halve vravaged by t epidemic will no longer get their care. what can you tell those people? this is an unbelievable crisis we re in. i ve been up front. we have to address the demand side through a concerted long-term pr effort, education effort like we have with tobacco. this is going to span decades. i keep hearing about cuts in medicaid. i don t have the numbers yet, but what i ve seen, again, i probably define cuts differently. cuts to me is actually reduction in spending from year to year. i don t think anybody is proposing any cuts. i don t believe anybody is proposing taking anybody off medicaid. we re talking about capping enrollment at some point in time in the future. i think there s been a lot of rhetoric, but let s get the information. let s get the numbers. i come from a manufacturing background. generally a problem solving process comes with defining the