not as u.s. administration officials have been portraying them, desperate because of sanctions and coming to the table begging. all right. gary, let s talk about venezuela and the release of this prisoner. how much credit should president trump get for both this prisoner release and also those three hostages that were released recently by north korea? well, i can speak to the north korean situation. i mean, two of these were people that were snatched by the north koreans after president trump took office. and it s typical behavior for the north koreans to grab some americans which they can later use in a gesture or give away in order to improve relations at the right time. so i think it was a very cynical and calculating move on the part of the north koreans in order to set the stage for what they hope will be the summit coming up. so let s talk about the summit, then, gary. i mean, who do you think is winning in the back and forth here between the white house and
coming to the table is because their nuclear program is complete and he also said these maximum pressure sanctions that you had against north korea, they had nothing to do with bringing kim jong-un to the table. so clearly, shep a lot of posturing. shepard: a leader on the democratic party is criticizing the president over some words he used surrounding this prisoner release. when the three detainees came back to andrews air force base, clearly it was a triumphant moment when kim dong-chul had been in custody since 2015. tony kim and kim hak-song finally were on american soil and had reached their freedom. you can see that, triumphant. the president thanked kim jong-un for releasing the prisoners. here s what he said. a great honor. hopefully everything will work
hour during his cabinet meeting. he was asked if he deserves the nobel peace prize after the prisoner release. here s what he said. everyone thinks so, but i would never say. you don t know what i want to do. i want to get it finished. the prize i want is victory for the world. not for even here. i want victory for the world because that s what we re talking about. so that s the only prize i want. we ll leave the nobel up to the nobel committee, but do you think we re in a position here, a lot of people were skeptical about, that real change could happen? oh, i think it s always a possibility. i ve said for years, one way to test the north koreans is to sit down and talk to them. put the proposition on the table, and force them to decide whether they re going to bargain or whether they re going to walk away from bargaining. i ve always believed in diplomacy. hold your friends close and your enemy closer. speaking of diplomacy, a
say, what not to say, getting your facts straight before you go on television, and talking about it. and among all of these revelations on comey, on stormy daniels, on michael cohen, as you discussed, the getting out in front of the north korean prisoner hostage is deeply, deeply alarming. lives are at stake. if there s one thing you don t go off and shoot your mouth off about, it s a prisoner release. a prisoner of war. i mean, these are lives at stake. rudy giuliani needs to get back into lawyer mode. help his client, and only speak of that which he knows. what do you make of all this? do you think that this is going to have any effect on the american people? we have already heard kellyanne conway and senator blunt say this morning, look, he s doing what he said he would do. the economy is improving. he s working on north korea, et cetera. that matters more than lies he tells. i m paraphrasing.
among all of these revelations on comey and stormy daniels and michael cohen as you discussed the getting out in front of the north korean prisoner hostage is deeply alarming. lives are at stake. if there is one thing you don t sort of shoot your mouth off about it is a prisoner release. these are lives at stake. rudy giuliani needs to get back into lawyer mode and help his client and only speak of that which he knows. what do you make of all of this? do you think this will have effect on the american people? we heard them say he is doing what he said he would do. the economy is improving. he is working on north korea. that matters more than lies he tells. i m paraphrasing but that is basically what they were saying. we have gotten to the point where the lies are so great not